From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 15 17:30:42 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C5C37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Shenton.org (23.ebbed1.client.atlantech.net [209.190.235.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 989D943F85 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 17:30:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@Shenton.Org) Received: (qmail 22537 invoked by uid 1000); 16 Jun 2003 00:30:38 -0000 To: Siegbert Baude References: <20030610220919.41E1F5D04@ptavv.es.net> <200306121915.h5CJFGSL083703@apollo.backplane.com> <3EE8D5EB.5030308@sliderule.demon.co.uk> <200306122247.32026.wes@softweyr.com> <200306130555.h5D5td1j086033@apollo.backplane.com> <87isr9n8dw.fsf@Pectopah.shenton.org> <3EEB2BDA.3040705@gmx.de> From: Chris Shenton Date: 15 Jun 2003 20:30:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <3EEB2BDA.3040705@gmx.de> Message-ID: <87u1aq3lu9.fsf@PECTOPAH.shenton.org> Lines: 41 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:30:42 -0000 Siegbert Baude writes: > Are your machines completely diskless then? Yes, but just one -- so far. Wanted to test it out and see how it worked. Could be a bit snappier running something bloated like Mozilla, but fine for a kitchen :-). I may have issues with network speed, bloated kernel, or something else which I haven't gotten around to diagnosing yet. For a desktop, quiet is nice but I'd like a bit more speed or snappiness. I might later try putting a quiet disk in one and doing something like a net-install of the OS so if it ever loses power or needs upgrading it could happen with a known-working OS. I like "data-less" machines so I can minimize sysadm duties. > Which kind of PSU do you use then? Some of these low-power external > ones? I'm using the Casetronic 2699R which has an external wall-wart power supply -- thus no fan :-) > With no mechanical parts left inside the computer, it should also be > robust enough, to be tossen around in the kitchen by children. I haven't disconnected the two tiny fans inside yet. I think Matthew indicated the cpu and chips might need some airflow, so I'm not in any hurry -- they're very quiet and the noise isn't unpleasant or whiney like disks can. > Another possible use would be as multimedia centre in the living > room, but I suspect you would need the 1GHz version then (or what > about the newer chipsets? Dunno, but that's one of the reasons I wanted to try one out. If it's fast enough for audio and video, put a box in the stereo and another with the TeeVee. Matthew's way ahead of me here.