From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 18 19:40:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91B50B97 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:40:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm31-vm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.97.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D771EC72 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:40:00 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rocketmail.com; s=s2048; t=1424288224; bh=iiG+uYVf3mBUo+c5Fkubc0OP+x8oRD24/8QgKV6bSyY=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From:Subject; b=m+R0F0I0epnuOe2M+qoMDj/bx8G9gvhO600q8mmubsWKOq7XppqoJVLUofX1duA5Vz2UOG4K4V1irX2+X3uV3WNbrT1asjkclSpwBfKuMtjRWHvxdUhO0ckbmpTT+0/vwl/r00wpUAGvFtEQNUJmMV6pryAvMBF+/cil9RM73B1KIE6b12G8RLcV7dpVnb8T9FzXW9b0k+CF7krYzrmfHQv3+Frt8mJrxfnclN6u1fAlXijOG5rxuAktC1H5fI0QCFDiLKjwoy6z4ITrhzO+IpnsiEP2MONU/Kge4pLSofdWxrv+DTx8ASAvpcSNzkdu5eg10KwzEx+hSLRNr+k3uQ== Received: from [212.82.98.48] by nm31.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 19:37:04 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.74] by tm1.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 19:37:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2015 19:37:04 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 93602.44958.bm@smtp111.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 59jZL7QVM1lZEk6c_TUxpfC9YXpjcANrOFXz24eGoHVBNiQ MJ1gHOQh9IdipDhWiE3Cq4Ab5AZVt8rlGXvtisBx95l4cljm9RO6Ld4Axv.I 4Kmyfc.ggpwAgi0n7JByu.h89HNpw28M.ImR4xsAXyDSxLIwvuWvqgqEznFD _0NswDrmyngKZS8vZBERlM7Di6qWtMVvH89m3Dod7m2kXY87AslTedRLs_r. kL2JDwo6n6VYc58TOhV1YoJbK.ypSrdKeTQ.jitVAEqHTRwGqIqCeMGKd5o2 rdTsFtxyztUlG1nkp4vK1hHxYzLXTQt9ATPXxS4DMBPmcSyShlRGpPxdu9tH xCSNnaDiAhJeXApcwGmof.RKm7dVXTekr9VTofeuldK8MCOFzO.ga4Q3tVJN EcQppfSTicjJwyVs3QtLEwyx2kF3qiW831.IjnRFR8RziQjTyLxDo4tcZ_cL cH1CZfu8gxuM7do3ubMYng9Lm7uJlxS0_0RWDoxj.QzghMZ_LaLqJ5vY6DNb cg9Z1fxngG.WiYSMOF40nXMwl X-Yahoo-SMTP: BeMCPs2swBABTJ3kAeEiC_hE0mz8jRexLddJfD8pI2j32fOacjBmXg-- Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 20:37:03 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf To: FreeBSD questions Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? Message-ID: <20150218203703.5d260b53@archlinux> In-Reply-To: <20150218183815.GB26575@neutralgood.org> References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <54E3BEBA.1060801@gmail.com> <20150218183222.2d09d17f.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150218185708.47f7f805@archlinux> <20150218183815.GB26575@neutralgood.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1-66-gd6ba813 (GTK+ 2.24.25; x86_64-arch-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:40:02 -0000 On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:38:15 -0500, kpneal@pobox.com wrote: >> This one isn't a joke :(, I made music with a gifted musician >> suffering from psychosis. He was convinced that his dental fillings >> include something, so that the government was able to control his >> mind. There are many jokes about dental filling psychosis, since >> it's a wide spread psychosis. This friend already suffered from this >> psychosis before RFIDs were invented. > >Well, whatever you do do _not_ tell him about malware that can be >controlled via a mic+speaker. Am I the only one who read about malware >in one laptop sending control messages out the speaker to another >laptop that had a mic on it? The control messages were inaudible to >the human ear. We aren't in contact anymore :(. However, people suffering from psychosis aren't necessarily prone to everything. He likely is able to deal with this information in a sane way. RFIDs can't directly control our minds, but it's too funny, a RFID could be everywhere in our closes, soles etc. and we wouldn't notice it. I'm one of those who don't need a mobile. I simply mean it word by word, "I don't need it" and that's the reason that I don't carry a mobile wherever I am. However, I'm aware that in my pocket are several cards with RFID, so theoretically it's possible to follow ever step I make in the same way, as it is possible to spy people who carry a handy 24/7. Indirectly this information could be used to have impact to everybody, you and me. The kind of impact differs. Some of us are hard or even impossible to manipulate, others are easy to manipulate, but there always is impact, even to those who can't be manipulated to change their minds. The most dangerous isn't collecting data, aren't RFIDs etc., the most dangerous is that in school they still teach by the left brain/verbal approach, while we are living in a medial/right brain/visually world. Less people are educated to handle multimedia in a reflective way. Western education just teaches how to use multimedia software, not to think about the consequences. I don't fear Trojans and similar, I fear unenlightened societies.