From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Dec 26 09:27:49 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14989 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 09:27:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vlad.sci.fi (laatikko.saunalahti.fi [195.74.0.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14984 for ; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 09:27:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sjuke@saunalahti.fi) Received: from sjukebox.home (MCCLIV.dyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.4.54]) by vlad.sci.fi (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id TAA12494; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:27:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from sjukehome.nonexistent (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sjukebox.home (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA00687; Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:27:18 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sjuke@saunalahti.fi) Message-Id: <199812261727.TAA00687@sjukebox.home> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" cc: Mark Ovens , Juergen Nickelsen , Drew Baxter , Ollivier Robert , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cool, A White Snowy Christmas in Sunnyvale, California 8) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 21 Dec 1998 08:03:36 PST." <83356.914256216@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1998 19:27:17 +0200 From: Jukka Similä Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id JAA14985 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What I do know is that many European countries have been famous for > centuries for having some of the best educated populations and for > fostering some of the greatest periods of intellectual advancement > (like the Rennaisance) in human history. Now that we've reached the > information age, it looks like just about everyone except for perhaps > Finland has completely dropped the ball. What's going on over there, indeed, over 50% of finnish people have their (our) own personal mobile phone, which works anywhere in the country (and in over 60 countrys over the world, advertises Sonera,a telecommunications company) - thanks to Nokia & Sonera. And everybody can read, the percentage is something 99+%. But- taxes may be as high as 60+%, and budget is something 300 000 000 000 FIM on red - about -60 000 000 000 USD. And about phonecalls, local phone charge is about 1$ /hour, and my internet connection costs that + ~12$ / month. - practically my net costs are ~ 80$ / 2 months, for 56K modem - that means about 60 hours / 2 months connected to the internet - differs slightly from fulltime connection, right? - well and I can't even complain about living costs (i'm 17, i live 'at home' with my parents). > guys? You should have wireless, unmetered usage, IP networks covering > every major city and federal programs where every able-bodied citizen > over 10 years old gets a state sponsored laptop and a wireless modem. > Villages of 40 people or more should qualify for free E1 service or > even more if some percentage of the population is actively engaged in > software development. Get Off Your Butts, you EC slackers! :-) Do you read science fiction? - you should read Isaac Asimov's 'Prelude to Foundation' - it tells about Universe-wide Empire, that is destroyed because there is no more research and no knowledge to fix old machines - gosh, sometimes I hate this , telling something in english, not knowing a half of the words and only guessing if everything I write sounds weird, funny or un-understandable. Anyway , a lot of things in 'Prelude to Foundation' matches to Europe. It's interesting. - Jukka S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message