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Date:      Thu, 22 Jul 1999 18:50:24 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        tlambert@primenet.com, nate@mt.sri.com, scheper@beast.toad.net, freebsd-smp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SMP + XDM = keyboard lockup
Message-ID:  <199907221850.LAA10852@usr05.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <199907221845.MAA03196@mt.sri.com> from "Nate Williams" at Jul 22, 99 12:45:33 pm

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> > I believe the issue is the system is still starting up, and thus
> > has the kernel poking at things.
> 
> It shouldn't be.  The kernel is completely done 'starting up', else all
> the /etc/rc.* files wouldn't have been run and init wouldn't have
> started spawning off gettys.

I'm referring to things that result in a lot of I/O activity
which are started in the rc files (NFS, DNS, sendmail, etc.).
The system isn't quiescent until a while _after_ the rc files
are run (long enough to log in).


> > This jibes with his statement that manually starting the xdm from
> > a root shell prompt on a relatively quiescent system "works".  It
> > is likely that it "works" only because there is not simultaneous
> > activity.
> 
> Or there is a a race in the video/keyboard driver that is causing
> problems.  X calls into the driver, so it's possible a missing spl() or
> somesuch is causing problem.
> 
> I doubt very much the problem is related to inb/outb, and is instead a
> just a 'bug'. :)

Maybe.  I think we should hold off investing too much of ourselves
into our respective theories until after he has done some of the
tests I suggested.  You should feel free to suggest tests, too, of
course, since I could be wrong, no matter how "right" it feels to me.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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