From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 13 09:33:41 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 728E616A4CE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:33:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (mail.julie.gl [81.19.240.4]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FB443D5A for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:33:40 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from per@xterm.dk) Received: from mailbox.wingercom.dk (localhost.wingercom.dk [127.0.0.1]) by mailbox.wingercom.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id AEF729323E for ; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 62.242.151.142 (SquirrelMail authenticated user per) by mailbox.wingercom.dk with HTTP; Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:37:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <54557.62.242.151.142.1095068269.squirrel@mailbox.wingercom.dk> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:37:49 +0200 (CEST) From: "Per Engelbrecht" To: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.2.5) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: src update without console access X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:33:41 -0000 Hi All The company where I'm working, are selling FreeBSD (5.2.1) installations in a dedicated serverhosting environment. When updating 'src' customers are adviced to use "standard" procedure i.e. cvsup. The problem is that customers don't have console access while in single-user mode ! (can't run installworld, mergemaster) I've tested an upgrade from a running system (killing sendmail first, no attached users) with poor result .. 'mergemaster -p' and 'mergemaster' only found a diff in /etc/motd and 'uname -a' didn't show any system changes after a reboot. In obsd I'm used to run a "clean" cvs, building and installing from a running system. I can't expect customers to go through that procedure so I was hoping that any you guys could help me with a solution for the customers? I've bee searching the archives and found a lot of stuff on keeping fbsd serverfarms up to date with PXE - very nice, but not an option. (we have a large PXE setup running allready for new installations) respectfully /per per@xterm.dk