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From: "Jonathan M. Bresler" <jmb>
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Subject: Re: SMTP Relay probing - Should I follow up - advice?
In-Reply-To: <356A227A.9760E56@w3page.com> from Blaine Minazzi at "May 25, 98 08:01:30 pm"
To: bminazzi@w3page.com (Blaine Minazzi)
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:59:16 -0700 (PDT)
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Blaine Minazzi wrote:
> > number of these spammers are buying access from big spam providers who, in
> > turn, buy access from large access providers, like alter.net, who just
> > don't care as long as the check doesn't bounce.
> 
> I have noticed a lot of crap originating from alter.net's downstream.
> 
> Can we band together and dely all mail services to alter.net's
> customers?
> Or, maybe push other backbone providers to cancel the peering
> arangements with them.

	if i remember correctly:

	ohhh, alter.net belongs to uu.net.
	uu.net belongs to world.com.
	world.com is merging with mci

	world.com was ~25% of the 'net in dec '97 
	per klaffy's talk at the 40th IETF.
	combine that will mci and it must be over

	50%.

	dont wanna do that, i fear.
jmb

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