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Date:      Thu, 13 Jul 1995 01:29:10 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
To:        Karl Denninger <karl@Mcs.Net>
Cc:        tom@misery.sdf.com (Tom Samplonius), rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SCSI disk wedge
Message-ID:  <199507130829.BAA02990@time.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: <199507130143.UAA00551@Jupiter.mcs.net>
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.950712183028.1872A-100000@misery.sdf.com> <199507130143.UAA00551@Jupiter.mcs.net>

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Karl Denninger writes:
 > If FreeBSD is going to be a production platform then it is going to have to
 > start behaving like one.  This means that pushing things off on drive
 > vendors is not acceptable.

Please, Tom doesn't necessarily speak for the FreeBSD Project!  We
agree that a problem is a problem, and finger pointing avails us nothing.

 > If you have a problem with a device, you *report it*.  Silent death is never
 > acceptable.  The kernel is running in this case, but the system is hung
 > waiting on I/O completion.

This is one area in which the SCSI code needs significant improvement;
no argument at all about that and we've known it for some time.
Finding people willing to go in there with a flashlight hunting for
unhandled error conditions and such is the more difficult problem.

					Jordan



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