From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Wed Jun 13 19:13:09 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558E81008AFA for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:13:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9F7A752A8 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 987791008AF2; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:13:08 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C16C1008AF0 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:13:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x233.google.com (mail-it0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2FDA752A7 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:13:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x233.google.com with SMTP id a195-v6so5171728itd.3 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:13:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=frAJ/6cptoxcZM8cDzaNIoq2vg9dt1bEuUe62c6bcBM=; b=RTul18l2CaaNgyciBzunQFfOF4/Ycy+Ls7sV0kKAO23VbJz6gaEGUWFVNhyaIFjlmI xvUlTFmEX05tZz2bdHnpIZko/lgqy3aDFkbW5KUU8Yh/UX6WBIrCP3MzLQgDPJomOjL2 L/gN+4X05y0igyOPKLhcOhvPgVjn+3Ql5SZgg5r2iQj/X430zGcoB+plHeL4XtjZwzqh TWZdFxlzEQJhgDM8L+Y8kj4O94UTQd3tqFKLTPbFNU/yKMQdLOoNT58TLdR4/FAfG135 /x+g/upkHqhNc1gGGFzAMUJXKda+HoYjYlH7tFEO3Yn2t+DIacafvt3y49ipKEFJlPxA kQAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=frAJ/6cptoxcZM8cDzaNIoq2vg9dt1bEuUe62c6bcBM=; b=CxuiKi6CftadN7ZU7SUI4GVRnY023l6eddcFokvu/tVl/bqpAlyZOqoRBbsE5krIGk JnhEjyhFVfjf+Z1kzWlA+YORUOiDkB9JktQjieiIBCDW224y8VIbpeRnz8q7kWIt7Abl ZRAq6rrTO36DcjYP0pX33QuHOnHui6iSCMh8NYnxwOKm3hYN/yzvQtJtpFLQHt4V22jh vKjHOQzGhc7zt/TljYZPSrXWrELf9ZOTCp5mqbAd8rmxc4eyvviFe4nG3ViIaw3hHXmO lTJqzRiDWq4vGEudB8/CybwOuLbUJx1dF/OvNfOFYjSOkRvD4kzePkNcyHrSgsBOmv/6 I3Vw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1NjlQoPuWP0yx8HJmC4koE63OdaKQHyWiHlL6KHPqyomoy0SqE HJ5GHxjiCuOsdcOB9aYSTtEp/mFoxF8pKh/bnHsG0Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKKTb665ZRjyxiSMqWtk6l3m5dheWaIY/it35QAmMiXg+YasZl8e+HmjFaRAECGi8i3gTcAZ1Q/ny9d31BbBhZs= X-Received: by 2002:a24:7c8d:: with SMTP id a135-v6mr5811319itd.73.1528917187113; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:13:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 2002:a4f:d028:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 12:13:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <20180613194454.534e9157129d3988c1683972@sohara.org> References: <201806131739.w5DHd6sl040722@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <45574.1528914200@critter.freebsd.dk> <20180613194454.534e9157129d3988c1683972@sohara.org> From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 13:13:06 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: CiRENNPEJPCRPURN_i_a8mPFmeY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Armeb removal before 12 To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" , "Rodney W. Grimes" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:13:09 -0000 On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:20 +0000 > "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > > > Well, we *do* have code for something called "swap-devices", and > > belive it or not, I actually ran make world in 64MB recently - just > > to see if it would work. Took most of a week. > > If memory serves correctly buildworld took a day or two back when > 64MB was a fairly generous allocation of memory and there was a lot less > world. > In the FreeBSD 1.x time frame, my 486DX2-66 with 32MB of RAM built world over night (well, late afternoon start the build, it was done by breakfast the next day so < 15 hours). Warner