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Date:      Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:51:18 -0600
From:      Warner Losh <imp@village.org>
To:        chris@calldei.com
Cc:        Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai@bart.nl>, Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami <asami@freebsd.org>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>, "David E. O'Brien" <obrien@freebsd.org>, cvs-committers@freebsd.org, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/tcsh - Imported sources 
Message-ID:  <200004160251.UAA30165@harmony.village.org>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:30:09 CDT." <20000415203009.B99830@holly.calldei.com> 
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In message <20000415203009.B99830@holly.calldei.com> Chris Costello writes:
:    When will you rewrite vgrind(1) and rip out csh from under all
: the csh users' feet?  Just because 80% of the people (if not
: more) think csh is horrible, doesn't mean that we should just
: completely remove it without putting anything remotely resembling
: it in its place.

Agreed.  This is BSD.  People expect a csh like thing.  tcsh is a csh
like thing that will keep them happy.  You'll alianate a *LOT* of
people if you do this.

Also, having tcsh move into the main system means that root can use it
in single user w/o having to mount /usr/local/bin.  If you use the
port, you have to put up with csh until you can get /usr/local/bin
mounted.  And sometimes that's not desirable at all.  Removing both
from the system would force the admin to use sh, which is not
accpetible to a large portion of the user community, despite what some
people's views are.

Warner




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