From owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Sep 5 21:04:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: hubs@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7767106566B; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 21:04:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@exonetric.com) Received: from relay.exonetric.net (relay0.exonetric.net [178.250.72.161]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F038FC0A; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 21:04:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.25] (186.211.187.81.in-addr.arpa [81.187.211.186]) by relay.exonetric.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9B6D92C333; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 22:04:16 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.0 \(1486\)) From: Mark Blackman In-Reply-To: <20120905190901.GK66364@carrick-users.bishnet.net> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 22:04:18 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <7ACDA7E9-5D7C-4740-B1B9-AAE2F77C100D@exonetric.com> References: <20120905112013.2d44783c@laptop> <09CB99A0-75BC-426C-BD44-9ACC7CD741D1@exonetric.com> <20551.35538.119912.329917@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> <20120905190901.GK66364@carrick-users.bishnet.net> To: Tim Bishop X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1486) Cc: "Bjoern A. Zeeb" , hubs@freebsd.org, Garrett Wollman , Cluster Administrators Subject: Re: pkgng mirrors X-BeenThere: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "FreeBSD Distributions Hubs: mail sup ftp" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 21:04:18 -0000 On 5 Sep 2012, at 20:09, Tim Bishop wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 06:35:48PM +0000, Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: >> ... we need it, especially if run well (though the majority of mirrors >> sadly aren't run well); ... > > I run mirrorservice.org so I've interacted with quite a few open source > projects that have their stuff mirrored by third parties. The FreeBSD > system seems fairly primitive compared to others; whilst you have > various things to check the status of the mirrors there's nothing (as > far as I know) automatically happening with it. Other projects have > systems to automatically remove mirrors from listings if they're not > updating properly or are missing content. > > If FreeBSD was to do something similar you'd be able to retain a well > established mirror network whilst effectively weeding out broken sites. > > That said, 10TB worth of packages? That's a lot and I can imagine most > mirrors couldn't handle that quantity of data. 10TB seems like a fairly modest requirement in 2012 with 3TB drives going for 100GBP. - Mark