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Date:      Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:23:23 -0700 (PDT)
From:      John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, Mike Smith <msmith@FreeBSD.ORG>, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>, Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Subject:   Re: 64 bit times revisited..
Message-ID:  <XFMail.011026182323.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.011026181705.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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On 27-Oct-01 John Baldwin wrote:
> 
> On 27-Oct-01 Matthew Dillon wrote:
>> 
>>:
>>:Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com> writes:
>>:>     Is anyone game for this project?
>>:
>>:I'd volunteer, but I have too many of my own patches to worry about
>>:right now.  How about mid-November, after BSDCon Europe?
>>:
>>:DES
>>:-- 
>>:Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org
>> 
>>     With the vnode and sync scaleability stuff *almost* out of the way I've
>>     started working on the Giant lock unwinding stuff, so I don't have time
>>     this moment either, but I would certainly have time available 
>>     mid-november to help out!  
>> 
>>     The project could be done and stabilized in a week with three or more
>>     people helping out.  There is good functional separation:
>> 
>> 
>>     * type changes (stat, timespec, timeval, timex, time_t)
>>     * syscall number rolls & compatibility code (sorry BSDI, it's more then
>> 10)
>>     * kernel side audit to handle new time_t & structures
>>     * libc audit - all time related functions
>>     * userland audit to handle new time_t & structures
>> 
>> 
>>     I think everyone has agreed on time_t going to 64 bits, and of course
>>     it must be seconds.  We have to decide in regards to timeval, stat, and
>>     timespec.  It looks like we may not have to mess with timex, which is
>>     good.
> 
> You did read the e-mail from Garrett where either SUS or POSIX one requires
> time_t to fit in a long?  I.e. sizeof(time_t) <= sizeof(long).  This means
> that if you bump time_t to 64 on i386, you have to bump long to 64, which is
> decidely something many people don't want to do.  I would suggest if you
> insist
> on working on this, you first convert time_t to a long so that platforms with
> 64-bit longs will have a 64-bit time_t, and then once you've cleaned up the
> messes that makes, you will still have time to decide if you want ppc and
> i386
> to go form ILP32 to IP32L64 (or however you specify that) which will probably
> involve backwards compatible syscalls, etc.  One step a time.  You don't have
> to do it all at once, and after doing the first step, you may find that that
> is
> enough.

My bad.  C90 requires that time_t fit into a long according to Garrett.  POSIX
requires it to be either an integer or floating point with the fractional part
zero according to his mail as well.

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