From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 5 22:38:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B519361D; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:38:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.multiplay.co.uk (mail1.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 299CF12B7; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r2d2 ([82.69.141.170]) by mail1.multiplay.co.uk (mail1.multiplay.co.uk [85.236.96.23]) (MDaemon PRO v10.0.4) with ESMTP id md50008151953.msg; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 22:38:34 +0000 X-Spam-Processed: mail1.multiplay.co.uk, Wed, 05 Feb 2014 22:38:34 +0000 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDDKIM-Result: neutral (mail1.multiplay.co.uk) X-MDRemoteIP: 82.69.141.170 X-Return-Path: prvs=1113d0acf6=killing@multiplay.co.uk X-Envelope-From: killing@multiplay.co.uk Message-ID: From: "Steven Hartland" To: "Matthew Seaman" , "Julian H. Stacey" References: <201402052202.s15M2Lha059200@fire.js.berklix.net> Subject: Re: [FreeBSD-Ports-Announce] Time to bid farewell to the old pkg_ tools Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 22:38:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2014 22:38:43 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian H. Stacey" > Immediately personal criticism is a poor way to start convincing. > > ports/ is not just for package addicts. I never install packages, > but only build & install from ports/. sqlite junk obstructs > /var/db/pkg being accessed by find & grep to debug breaking ports builds. We also maintain all our machines from in house built ports but I must say in the 10 years I've never used find / grep on /var/db/pkg to debug breaking port builds. Everyone works differently, so we may be unique here, but surely if the tools still exist to determine the issue e.g. sqlite queries, along side the clear advantages the new storage brings, I'm not sure what the issue is? Regards Steve ================================================ This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to postmaster@multiplay.co.uk.