From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 1 07:37:46 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D3F16A41A; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brde@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.192]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BFE13C4B7; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:37:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from brde@optusnet.com.au) Received: from besplex.bde.org (c220-239-235-248.carlnfd3.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.235.248]) by mail11.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id l917bBc5031771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:37:11 +1000 Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:37:10 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Jeff Roberson In-Reply-To: <20070930153430.U583@10.0.0.1> Message-ID: <20071001172620.X1839@besplex.bde.org> References: <20070930040318.094E345018@ptavv.es.net> <20070930153430.U583@10.0.0.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: src-committers@freebsd.org, Kevin Oberman , cvs-src@freebsd.org, Jeff Roberson , Garance A Drosehn , Ben Kaduk , cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/kern sched_ule.c X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:37:47 -0000 On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, Jeff Roberson wrote: > On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Kevin Oberman wrote: >> YMMV, but ULE seems to generally work better then 4BSD for interactive >> uniprocessor systems. The preferred scheduler for uniprocessor servers >> is less clear, but many test have shown ULE does better for those >> systems in the majority of cases. > > I feel it's safe to say desktop behavior on UP is definitely superior. This is unsafe to say. > I > think there is no significant difference on UP between 4BSD and ULE This may be safe to say, but is inconsistent with the above. > except > perhaps in context switching microbenchmarks where ULE falls behind. It is safe to say that interactive users cannot notice insignificant differences. It takes a micro-benchmark to notice possibly-significant differences of hundreds or even thousands of nanonseconds for context switching. ULE may give higher priority to interactive processes, but most loss of interactivity is caused by blocking on I/O, and there is nothing nothing a scheduler can do to speed up slow or overloaded devices. Bruce