Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 18:44:49 -0700 From: Don Wilde <dwilde1@ibm.net> To: Mike <muck@ida.net> Cc: FreeBSD-Advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Promoting FreeBSD. Message-ID: <3536B411.222CB371@ibm.net> References: <9804162102.AA02400@ringworld.uniscape.com> <35367D7D.9AE4092A@ibm.net> <3536A33C.167EB0E7@ida.net>
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Mike wrote: > > > Of course, then there's the argument that for servers it's silly to run > > X in the first place. > > Agreed. It sounds like people want a "FreeBSD for Idiots." The problem > with doing everything with X and a nice gui is it eats up memory and cpu > cycles. You can already use sysinstall to add users and a few > networking options can be changed as well. Y! I floated the idea of making a newbie install package that would set up a personal PC kind of thing for the first-time user to play with, that he could then configure and perfect to his heart's content. Most importantly, it would _run_right_out_of_the_box. It would do so by making minimal assumptions about what Joe PC has installed, i.e. a plain vanilla VGA card and just one hard disk. The main thing is that it would drop the config files in, for example for Apache and Mozilla, based on the info supplied to sysinstall. Nothing is more daunting than to power your brand new system and get obtuse error messages saying it's missing a file. > > A program can be run from the command line and still be easy to use, > like the port apsfilter. If someone is too dumb to type "adduser" and > then follow a few simple instructions, maybe they shouldn't be calling > themselves a sysamdin in the first place. > Agreed. But then, we _do_ need a corresponding script that says rmuser. Holes like thta need to be filled in. Our poster wasn't saying these were sysadmins he was trying to get to use it, my feeling is that they are Joe Business who he wants to set up to run a turnkey box without having to pay him every week. I think that is a sound area we need to address, but I would prefer we do it by making the command-line tools more orthogonal and better in some cases. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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