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Date:      Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:39:44 -0700
From:      David Christensen <dpchrist@holgerdanske.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Jail question: packages with relative symlinks
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On 2020-08-27 04:50, Ernie Luzar wrote:
> snip
>>
>> p.s. Lucas wrote some good books that cover jails:
>>
>> [1] https://mwl.io/nonfiction/os#af3e
>>
>> [2] https://mwl.io/nonfiction/os#fmjail
> 
> 
> The jail book is a waste of your money. Half of it is about a software 
> tool that has nothing to do with native jails. The other half is a copy 
> of stuff you can download from the internet. The biggest problem is none 
> of the things he talks about in the book, did he test to see if they are 
> true. I was fooled by the subject not by the content. It's not worth 
> what you pay for it. It's a scam.

When learning a non-trivial subject, RTFM and STFW can require a lot of 
effort -- especially the latter, as the WWW is full of incomplete, 
obsolete, and contradictory information.


I am willing to pay a reasonable price for a printed book that contains 
current information, organizes it, and presents it in a rational order. 
Lucas writes such books, and I own eleven of them.


I do not recall ever encountering an error when entering an example from 
a Lucas book.  (But, I have not entered every command from every book.)


When I wanted jails for my SOHO server, I read Lucas and choose the 
jail(8) option.  My server is running 24x7 without issues.


I believe I attempted ezjail for a second server, but ran into problems 
with the software not being unsupported on 12.1-RELEASE (?).


I have not tried iocage.


David



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