From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 15 07:24:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 57EF6AB for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 07:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F3F162330 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 07:23:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.2.117.99]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rAF7NrS3034568 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 07:23:54 GMT (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.8.3 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk rAF7NrS3034568 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/rAF7NrS3034568; dkim=none reason="no signature"; dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <5285CC00.6010800@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 07:23:44 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proposal for Authors / Vendors in ports References: <5283E4A0.6090107@pcbsd.org> <20131114073008.GG90670@droso.dk> <9D6E2358-4750-41D5-9B8C-F638C8B1E351@xs4all.nl> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LAncWVNaJWtQFVkDDIDmMU7EqAoMIhlQv" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 07:24:00 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --LAncWVNaJWtQFVkDDIDmMU7EqAoMIhlQv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 15/11/2013 00:54, Eitan Adler wrote: > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Jaap Akkerhuis wrot= e: >> >> On Nov 14, 2013, at 8:30, Erwin Lansing wrote: >> >>> That sounds like an excellent idea. I'm just a bit worried about >>> spreading the information over too many places, and would rather spli= t >>> content from logic and add these to pkg-descr as well next to the >>> current WWW. I know we're not consistent already with things like >>> COMMENT and LICENSE already in the Makefile, so won't ojbect too much= to >>> where these end up. >> >> Apart from spreading this information into to many places (pkg_desc se= ams >> a proper place to have such information), why have the Makefile double= up >> as a database? >=20 > pkg_descr is free form. Makefiles are parsable (make -V). pkg_descr is only as free-form as we define it to be. It's a lot quicker to parse out the WWW entry from pkg_descr than it is to run 'make -V' to extract values from port Makefiles. That's because make includes and parses a whole stack of different files from /usr/ports/Mk and elsewhere and does a bunch of other processing -- takes about 200ms per port just to print out the variables used in the INDEX. So, unless the variable is needed as part of the build process for a port putting it in pkg_decr makes sense to me. This could include some well-known values like MAINTAINER if we want to go that far. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 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