From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 17 21:17:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803CB37B407; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f9I4HST25838; Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:17:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Doug Hass" , "void" Cc: "Mike Smith" , "Leo Bicknell" , "Jim Bryant" , "MurrayTaylor" , , Subject: RE: FYI Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 21:17:28 -0700 Message-ID: <000101c1578b$cc3858c0$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >-----Original Message----- >From: Doug Hass [mailto:dhass@imagestream.com] >Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:10 AM >To: void >Cc: Mike Smith; Ted Mittelstaedt; Leo Bicknell; Jim Bryant; >MurrayTaylor; freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: FYI > > >If you didn't say it, then you weren't the one I was talking about, was I? > >:-) > >I got several other private mails saying that BSD licensed code was the >one and only way, well Doug, there's a reason you got those as private mails instead of public posts - because this isn't the viewpoint of the FreeBSD community. >and 2 or 3 mails (from Ben, among others) saying that >BSD-licensed was preferred. > Preferred doesen't mean we are going to throw the baby out with the bathwater and turn up our nose at anyone's effort with FreeBSD. >Either approach is as flawed as someone who claims GPL only or GPL >preferred. The license terms of add-on drivers and products should be set >according to the needs of the authoring person or company, in my opinion. > This is a perfectly valid viewpoint that a lot of companies share which is why they don't include their drivers. For example Sangoma, and Emerging don't include FreeBSD drivers either - but they make them available from their own websites. In My Humble Opinion this is inferior than just giving the binaries over to the project and letting the drivers be handed out where they may, but those companies and you are welcome to do it that way if you prefer. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >Doug > >On Wed, 17 Oct 2001, void wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 17, 2001 at 12:19:34PM -0500, Doug Hass wrote: >> > >> > I'm glad someone else is speaking up--all I've heard is Ted's point of >> > view (from him, and from others who have said the same thing: >FreeBSD only >> > accepts BSD licensed code, period.) >> >> I said to you in private mail that where there's a BSD-licensed solution >> and a non-BSD-licensed solution, all else being roughly equal, FreeBSD >> tends towards the BSD-licensed solution. Not the same thing at all. >> >> -- >> Ben >> >> "An art scene of delight >> I created this to be ..." -- Sun Ra >> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message