Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 21:21:25 -0600 (CST) From: Kevin Day <toasty@home.dragondata.com> To: bright@hotjobs.com (Alfred Perlstein) Cc: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, nate@mt.sri.com, bs_13943_34262@adimus.de, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) Message-ID: <199812170321.VAA05006@home.dragondata.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9812161605480.27793-100000@bright.fx.genx.net> from Alfred Perlstein at "Dec 16, 1998 4: 9:27 pm"
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> On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > > > > All claimed advantages have absolutely nothing to do with the question > > > > > of placing your fortran compiler in the base system instead of a port. > > > > > > > > There is already a Fortran compiler in the base system. > > > > > > I'd argue (heck, I am arguing. :) that it should be removed. > > > > > > > Surprisingly, I would actually support this. > > > > You realize that doing so makes FreeBSD look bad to new compsci students > who all have to take that dreaded FORTRAN class sometime during their > education? > > Just one vote for keeping f2c and friends, or perhaps getting g77. > > Yes a lot of people have different expectations of FreeBSD, one of mine > and many compsci students is a useable FORTRAN enviornment. > This really isn't my thing, but.... 'base' should be the bare minimum to get the system running. I spent a few days trying to get freebsd to fit on a 48MB flash cartridge. The arguement that 'If someone installs FreeBSD and it doesn't have fortran will scare them off' is silly. If they can go through the setup, they can add a port. Is fortran a package as well as a port? Perhaps another distribution called 'math' or something similar.... Just like selecting X windows, someone could select if they want this or not, during the install. Please don't make 'base' any larger. I was planning on suggesting a while back to make it smaller, and much more modular. I'm all for keeping fortran an option, but.... We can't include every compiler as base, or base will be too big for some systems. :) Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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