From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 18 08:04:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995D91065678 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com (wa-out-1112.google.com [209.85.146.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719F48FC0C for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:04:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yanefbsd@gmail.com) Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id j4so1222290wah.3 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:04:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=VYmbueS7mfrLYrUuE/zck2UPXf2VskEvOhKiVcrVq8w=; b=R394wfKN+6PNv857AJsaX0amRNikcBgQfnKOt/8JxybLGfLrdbnxdXSfMR41yRLwSy RhW0dQtAdcfPZvolP8F1+DwU9GJS420C9FKKxR0RBhFRYlAjrW8jpUXMryK+IH/Vz8Vk PUr+X0STpRA4Kolppb//FuFJQvDP7WU1jJmKw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=s6rBAIg1TpsKENrjaiIRF0svv/3P7/u7+BXC6dz4MFaF/TmxILHPQsp2WHkMn8Cwe5 jS/l6wt+ecbXBgbuMme06QdCMZKGcZ+pyyvpz18L9xdpb1pUGwkeYFIN7/aB7YUDQPwT 8vEiiXEdRgQIBj9brtCy+h8pxJ6J7EIiERbM8= Received: by 10.114.170.2 with SMTP id s2mr4693411wae.170.1219046676904; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.10.42? ( [99.147.150.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m28sm1506518poh.10.2008.08.18.01.04.34 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <61273574-0EE4-4D24-A543-C9AC38ED66B0@gmail.com> From: Garrett Cooper To: Jonathan McKeown In-Reply-To: <200808121414.44139.jonathan+freebsd-hackers@hst.org.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:06:12 -0700 References: <78086795e6ab9676870368dcebb57b37.squirrel@secure.futurecis.com> <78cb3d3f0808120503t3e2c7d68n1d4383c98aa41e10@mail.gmail.com> <200808121414.44139.jonathan+freebsd-hackers@hst.org.za> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Idea for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:04:37 -0000 On Aug 12, 2008, at 5:14 AM, Jonathan McKeown wrote: > On Tuesday 12 August 2008 14:03:30 Adrian Penisoara wrote: >> While we're at it, I wish we could leverage the posibility for the >> admin to manually start the service at the CLI, no matter whether the >> service has been enabled or not -- that is the "_enable" keyword >> should have effect only in the bootup/automatic contexts. > > Isn't this what onestart does? > > Jonathan I may be a bit late into the conversation, but for what it's worth upstart does have some positive features in the 0.5.0 version (the one that just rolled off the SVN train recently). Their use of simple and complex job start criteria and the ability to link in process monitoring functionality via DBUS clients is interesting... albeit not necessary except in high availability environments. -Garrett