Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2004 03:50:30 -0500 From: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com> To: Bram Moolenaar <Bram@moolenaar.net> Cc: FreeBSD GNOME Users <gnome@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Build of Mozilla failed Message-ID: <1074934229.1546.72.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> In-Reply-To: <200401232055.i0NKtuQT003680@moolenaar.net> References: <200401232055.i0NKtuQT003680@moolenaar.net>
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--=-cEiAMY61G8vnw+XHeFIh Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 15:55, Bram Moolenaar wrote: > I suppose that's another thing to try out and see if it's stable enough > for me to use... A lot of people are using this as their primary browser. >=20 > > > - I have some trouble with the ordinary mozilla, will this be solved = by > > > installing mozilla-devel or mozillafirebird? > >=20 > > Not sure. What problems? >=20 > Slow loading of pages, some parts of pages are not displayed. Would > have to look into the page sources to find out why (perhaps it's > javascript or something like that). I also see that my KDE color > preferences mess up how the toolbar looks. I haven't noticed any problems like that. Do you have some example pages? Since I don't use KDE, I don't have a suggestion on that.=20 Perhaps kde@ could offer more insight. >=20 > > > - What are the -gtk2 and -bonobo versions? > >=20 > > The gtk2 version is needed for building gtk2-based browsers like galeon= 2 > > and epiphany which require Mozilla as a base. mozilla-bonobo is a > > Mozilla plug-in that enables one to embed bonobo controls into Mozilla > > (e.g. ggv, gpdf, gnumeric, etc.). >=20 > And, eh, do I need it? If you have a lot of GNOME apps installed, and you like to view things like PDF documents, spreadsheets, word processor documents, etc. directly in your browser, then you'll want it. > I was hoping for an answer like "it runs faster > but requires installing GTK2" or "uses more memory and doesn't offer > more features". The -gtk2 version is prettier, but it is the same basic browser. If you don't need gtk2 support, don't install it. >=20 > [...] >=20 > > > - Do I have to try them all out to be able to decide what works for m= e? > >=20 > > Or ask others. I use galeon2 as my primary browser, and only bring up > > Firebird for certain apps. This means I also have mozilla-gtk2 > > installed. >=20 > As it is now the answer is probably "install them all, you never know > which one you need to use" :-). I don't install all of them. I have mozilla-gtk2 (only because it's needed for galeon2), and mozilla-firebird because I need it for a work application where galeon doesn't cut it for JavaScript reasons. >=20 > > > Would be very nice if there is a page on www.freebsd.org that explain= s > > > all this. > >=20 > > Perhaps this is something we can add if someone steps up to write some > > content. >=20 > Considering how much effort it has been to make all these ports, > explaining people what the differences are can't be that much work. > Unless the porters don't want anyone to know about their efforts... Finding the right place for this is the hard part. We could add another project section (i.e. www.freebsd.org/mozilla), but that will take approval from doc@, and someone to build the content. However, it's something we should do. >=20 > > > I already discovered that flashplugin-mozilla stinks. And it appears= to > > > be slow. I went back to my Netscape 7.1 (linux version) for now. Bu= t I > > > can't manage to make Java work with that one, while it does work with > > > mozilla (native). > >=20 > > You may want to look at the flashpluginwrapper for the native Mozilla.=20 > > This will require 4.9 or better (and with 4.X, you'll need a base OS > > patch as well). >=20 > I'm still running 4.8. I only upgrade once in a while (takes too much > time and always causes new trouble). Sounds complicated, I'll stick > with Netscape 7.1 and run mozilla when I need Java. One annoying thing: > can't run them at the same time, because when starting mozilla it sees > that Netscape is running and opens a tab inside it... Right. Netscape/Mozilla wants to talk with already running instances.=20 Though you can run Galeon and Firebird or Mozilla at the same time. Joe --=20 PGP Key : http://www.marcuscom.com/pgp.asc --=-cEiAMY61G8vnw+XHeFIh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBAEjHVb2iPiv4Uz4cRAopsAJ9PJhzsyVRz59wD+lLC2gv55ZUWegCgnEBm 8p0UzZ7dyVqKPw8yKr3wiQw= =AbI3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-cEiAMY61G8vnw+XHeFIh--
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