From owner-freebsd-ports Sat Jul 10 9:44:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from tao.thought.org (tao.tera.com [207.108.223.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E0614C37 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:44:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.8.8/8.7.3) id JAA25871; Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19990710094402.B25765@thought.org> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 09:44:02 -0700 From: Gary Kline To: Hamish Moffatt , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, publisher@laptop.ompages.com Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: FreeLinux (Debian/GNU BSD) References: <199907091429.HAA25261@deal1.bogs.org> <19990709091714.C973@laptop.ompages.com> <19990710233325.C20013@rising.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <19990710233325.C20013@rising.com.au>; from Hamish Moffatt on Sat, Jul 10, 1999 at 11:33:25PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jul 10, 1999 at 11:33:25PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Fri, Jul 09, 1999 at 09:17:14AM -0700, Nate wrote: > > There was a pretty long thread a few months ago, where debian > > linux developers discussed incorporating the the FreeBSD kernel > > into the debian software distribution. > > > > There is already Debian/GNU Linux, and Debian/GNU HURD. I believe > > there may be people working on this now. I for one, would welcome > > a debian distribution based on the freebsd kernel. > > > > I've used both freebsd and debian linux and I see the following problems > > with each. > > But Nate, who would run such a system? > > I suspect FreeBSD users are quite happy with their user-space tools > (like their own BSD fileutils, not the GNU ones, etc) and their ports > system. I haven't found the ports system to be inferior to our packages, > just different (I have 3.2-RELEASE installed here). > > I suspect Linux users are quite happy with Debian GNU/Linux as is stands > now. I'm not interested in a flamewar, but I suspect that very few users > would notice any difference between the kernels in terms of reliability, > if indeed any difference at all. > This is most of it. Linux by itself is just a unixesque kernel so that a linuxBSD or debianBSD would not be much more than a merger of the Berkeley kernel|networking with all the GNU tools. If the Debian effort were to roll in additions like the STREAMS clone code (plus) hacked in the myriad drivers that Linux has (hmm, good and bad, really)---Nate, if this Debian|BSD concept was this, then you might be able to put together a Core team. Simply: a lotta work... gary -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message