From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 1 12:38:12 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA29553 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 12:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from clarion.korrnet.org (clarion.korrnet.org [205.131.173.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA29533 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 12:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (kegrotla@localhost) by clarion.korrnet.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15368; Sun, 1 Dec 1996 15:33:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 15:33:15 -0500 (EST) From: Kjell E Grotland To: Terry Lambert cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: IBM 57SLC In-Reply-To: <199611261820.LAA25347@phaeton.artisoft.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Thanks to all, Terry, Michael, Warner and all others who replied to my inquiry concerning running FreeBSD on my IBM 57SLC and also concerning running FreeBSD on a MAC PowerPC. Unfortunatly i am not as technically literate as i would like to be but i have digested the gist of the information (which i really appreciated receiving) and will continue reading more to try to catch up with all the technical stuff. Where can one get ahold of NetBSD? Again i really appreciate all of your input into these questions of mine. Its been a while since ive been in the computer business, almost a year now, so i am slowly loosing my knowledge base through loss of use :-)). So please keep the information coming and ill try assimilate it as best i can. Thank you, Kjell Kjell E. Grotland kegrotla@korrnet.org Where do you seek the Beloved? On Tue, 26 Nov 1996, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Oh by the way i have heard a rumour that MAC PowerPCs will support > > FreeBSD. Any truth to this. That would be just totally awsome. Running > > FreeBSD on a RISC chip machine. > > Depends. > > Will they ever be as documented as the Motorolla Ultra 603/604 > motherboards Soled by FirePower systems, Arrow Electronics, and > used in Motorolla PowerStack systems? > > I have been unable to get my hands on the touted-for-Linux OSF/Mach > hardware interface so far, which is supposedly the only publically > available "documentation". > > Even so, the hardware it applies to is the new Mac's, *NOT* the 6100, > 7100, 8100 NuBus systems. So if you can buy it used for a resonable > price, it won't run (ever) unless Apple documents it. > > There is some indication from the NetBSD camp that the Mach code is > (like the Tennon Systems MACH-10) running through the ROM's. > > This means that the drivers are single threaded, non-reentrant, and > a huge bottleneck to multiprocessing (hey! Just like running MacOS > on top of those same ROM's!). > > I know I've been arguing for BIOS-based fallback drivers for PC's > for forever, but they are not something on which one could safely > base an entire port (yes, I know the 1.1.5 PS/2 port which was never > released used ABIOS calls; ABIOS is not BIOS is not Mac ROM's). > > Most likely I will be hacking on a BeBox after the SMP stuff is > committed and the Intel MP spec is abstracted under a HAL used by > the kernel (surprisingly, PPC based machines don't follow the Intel > MP spec... go figure 8-)). > > > Regards, > Terry Lambert > terry@lambert.org > --- > Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present > or previous employers. >