From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jan 26 19:56:29 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B3614ABF76 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 19:56:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from acupuncture@cgocable.ca) Received: from fvipqcsab01.cogeco.net (smtp5.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.71]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68B86AD8F for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 19:56:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from acupuncture@cgocable.ca) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2BwEwAEukxc/2LmRkVkHgEGBwaBZQKBB?= =?us-ascii?q?4IyIRKEKIh5i18DAQEBAQEBBQGBCAghg16FW5BOOAGEQAKDLDgSAQMBAQIBAQI?= =?us-ascii?q?BbChCFgGBYSKCbwYjDwEjMwsaAhQMBgICORABDRMIAQEagwSBdQ2oc4Evg0E9g?= =?us-ascii?q?UWEYoELi014gQeBOAyCX4RrYwKCOoJXApEckSsHAgKGaos8HpIsnSkhgVaELZB?= =?us-ascii?q?5JIEzAT0BikCBEYIpAQE?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2BwEwAEukxc/2LmRkVkHgEGBwaBZQKBB4IyIRKEKIh5i18?= =?us-ascii?q?DAQEBAQEBBQGBCAghg16FW5BOOAGEQAKDLDgSAQMBAQIBAQIBbChCFgGBYSKCb?= =?us-ascii?q?wYjDwEjMwsaAhQMBgICORABDRMIAQEagwSBdQ2oc4Evg0E9gUWEYoELi014gQe?= =?us-ascii?q?BOAyCX4RrYwKCOoJXApEckSsHAgKGaos8HpIsnSkhgVaELZB5JIEzAT0BikCBE?= =?us-ascii?q?YIpAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.56,527,1539662400"; d="scan'208";a="104335597" Received: from modemcable098.230-70-69.static.videotron.ca (HELO localhost.localdomain) ([69.70.230.98]) by fvipqcsab01.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 26 Jan 2019 14:56:18 -0500 Subject: Re: Wireless interface To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: From: "Myster.Hide" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 14:53:44 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: fr-FR X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: D68B86AD8F X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of acupuncture@cgocable.ca designates 216.221.81.71 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=acupuncture@cgocable.ca X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.15 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:216.221.81.0/24]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[cgocable.ca]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.27)[0.275,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.80)[-0.802,0]; IP_SCORE(-0.02)[country: CA(-0.09)]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.91)[0.909,0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[mx2.cgocable.ca,mx3.cgocable.ca]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[71.81.221.216.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7992, ipnet:216.221.64.0/19, country:CA]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 19:56:29 -0000 Le 26/01/2019 à 13:50, Carmel NY a écrit : > On Sat, 26 Jan 2019 09:54:05 -0600, Rob Belics stated: > >>> It is situations like this that make me love >>> Microsoft. Connecting a wireless network should not require user >>> intervention other than choosing the network and entering the >>> password. >> FreeBSD is not a consumer operating system. It's not designed to hand >> hold anyone. That is why Windows is such a huge monstrosity of an >> install. > I just finished a fresh install of Windows 10. If you take the time > involved in installing a basic MS Windows system vs. a basic FreeBSD > system, Windows will usually win. A big plus is that Windows actually > can get a wireless system up and running by itself, sans perhaps > supplying the password. Does FreeBSD even support using the WPS Button > on the Wi-Fi Router? Plus, you then have to install a GUI. Now, if you > want to compare a FreeBSD system sans GUI, you have to compare it > against a MS Server, not the regular Windows version design for home or > office users. > > This is not about "hand-holding"; it is about bring the OS into the > modern age. My machine is supposed to be my slave, not the other way > around. > > Thanks for your comment anyway. > Windows is your slave? Really?