From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Aug 18 12:47:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from xylan.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79418151BF; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:47:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com by xylan.com (8.8.7/SMI-SVR4 (xylan-mgw 2.2 [OUT])) id MAA25784; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah.XYLAN.COM by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id MAA14768; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 12:40:04 -0700 Received: from softweyr.com by utah.XYLAN.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (xylan utah [SPOOL])) id NAA05477; Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:46:12 -0600 Message-ID: <37BB0D83.27927148@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 13:46:11 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: James Gill Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, "'Freebsd-Security@Freebsd. Org'" , "Harry M. Leitzell" Subject: Re: OpenBSD (FW: Please do not take this above statement too lightly, since the project is typically not in strong financial health.) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org James Gill wrote: > Theo de Raadt [mailto:deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org] wrote: > > > > Sorry. You better read up on history. > > > > http://theos.com/deraadt/coremail > > > > And search archives. > > Well, Harry, I guess you were right. > > Nevermind, go back to your chores. (cores?) This is a pretty one-sided archive, omitting most of what Theo said. Look it up in the archives yourself, and look up some of the incidents that lead up to it. It was certainly not the childish reaction Theo paints it as. Theo is very abrupt and thinks everyone in the world other than himself should have skin 3 feet thick, while he is VERY quick to take insult at any reference he doesn't consider complimentary. OpenBSD has been hanging by a financial thread since the day Theo created it because it is Theo's baby, Theo doesn't make (much) money from it or any- thing else, and because Theo fails to attract any considerable development team because he is rude and arrogant. I'm continually amazed at the abrupt, curt, and rude answers I get to every correspondence with Theo or OpenBSD.org, even when I am offering some small item of help. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://softweyr.com/ wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message