From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Apr 11 09:21:16 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id JAA22524 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:21:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de [141.76.1.11]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA22516 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 09:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sax.sax.de by irz301.inf.tu-dresden.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with ESMTP id SAA19207 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:21:07 +0200 Received: by sax.sax.de (8.6.11/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id SAA16060 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:21:06 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.7.5/8.6.9) id SAA05773 for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:15:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: J Wunsch Message-Id: <199604111615.SAA05773@uriah.heep.sax.de> Subject: Re: DVORAK keyboard drivers To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org (FreeBSD hackers) Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 18:15:21 +0200 (MET DST) In-Reply-To: <199604111058.GAA04390@exalt.x.org> from "Kaleb S. KEITHLEY" at Apr 11, 96 06:58:33 am X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24 ME8a] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote: > > > In the mean time, editing your XF86Config file is the solution. > > > Is that such a difficult concept? > > > > Yes. It's unacceptable. > > Humbug. You're just being stubborn. Thank you for your very enlightening comment. You're close to falling off the quality level for postings where i even considering an answer. I don't wanna miss Xkb. Otherwise i would have run my Xserver with -xkb. However, as you probably miss, i have a great deal in Usenet support, so i can already predict the upcoming questions. The current situation for the average user is very simple: the system worked as exepected before, the key mapping between the base system and the Xserver were roughly similar (though not identical due to the design flaws of the underlying interface of the console drivers). Now, with the technically better solution, this has been broken. It's *our* responsibility (as the developers of these systems -- o/s, and X11), to give the users at least a migration tool. They might want to pick the Xkb tools to go further, but they should to the very least be able to start with the same feature level as before. I'm living in a country where 98 % of all users need a different keyboard mapping, perhaps this is what makes me more sensible to this kind of breakage. (Yes. Breakage.) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)