From owner-svn-src-stable@freebsd.org Wed Aug 15 20:48:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C56610700D0; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:48:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04F777AC0D; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:48:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: from pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id w7FKmEus049853; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 13:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id w7FKmEDM049852; Wed, 15 Aug 2018 13:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <201808152048.w7FKmEDM049852@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: svn commit: r337826 - stable/11/bin/ls In-Reply-To: <1534365765.1466.15.camel@freebsd.org> To: Ian Lepore Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 13:48:14 -0700 (PDT) CC: rgrimes@freebsd.org, Kyle Evans , Adam Weinberger , svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers , Ed Maste , svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org Reply-To: rgrimes@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-BeenThere: svn-src-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for all the -stable branches of the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2018 20:48:16 -0000 > On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 13:34 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2018-08-15 at 13:26 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > Will backing out the MFC and leaving this a 12.0 feature end > > > > > this? > > > > =( > > > > > > > > Sadly no, as the person responded with that reaction when > > > > they installed 12.0-ALPHA :-(. > > > So one whiner can demand of the project that any new feature be > > > removed > > > before a new release is made? > > Saddly our sample size is never reflective of the user base, > > any and all feedback from ANY user, one or one hundred should > > be considered.??Most people have come to the point that they > > wont even say anything any more cause the FreeBSD developer > > community just ignores them, and that I hear from many more > > than 1. > > > > I doubt very many of the "user" base is running with this > > patch in place yet. > > > > > > If citing invisible armies of supporters is acceptable, it appears that > any single person can in fact demand removal of something. No one is demanding any removal of anything here, your going very far off on that. I have how ever asked, and in one case Kyle has already said he would add --color= support, that we maintain some simbliance of compatibility with respect to knob turning. -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org