From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 18 09:55:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A61A16A41F; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:55:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (ns0.infracaninophile.co.uk [81.187.76.162]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B397D43D46; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:55:49 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id jBI9tdEA077826; Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:55:40 GMT (envelope-from m.seaman@infracaninophile.co.uk) Message-ID: <43A53215.8090001@infracaninophile.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:55:33 +0000 From: Matthew Seaman Organization: Infracaninophile User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051204) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chuck Swiger References: <43A266E5.3080103@samsco.org> <20051217220021.GB93998@svcolo.com> <43A4A557.3010600@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <43A4A557.3010600@mac.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig4B2841E627D47D72C34079BE" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:::1]); Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:55:40 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.87.1/1211/Fri Dec 16 22:51:35 2005 on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,NO_RELAYS autolearn=ham version=3.1.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.0 (2005-09-13) on happy-idiot-talk.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: Joe Rhett , stable@freebsd.org, current Subject: Re: Fast releases demand binary updates.. (Was: Release schedule for 2006) X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:55:52 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig4B2841E627D47D72C34079BE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chuck Swiger wrote: > Upgrading the ports from there was somewhat annoying, as this guy's machine had > ~400 or so, but deleting them all, and then using "pkg_add -r " works just fine > if you want to grab the latest current binaries. From there you can portupgrade > as usual. > > Now, if you want to talk about upgrading to intermediate patch releases, you've > got a valid point there. :-) Doesn't creating a binary updates system that's going to be practical to use require implementation of that old and exceedingly bikesheddable subject: packaging up the base system? After all, you're going to need some mechanism for auditing servers down the line (yes, this machine has had the vital fix to the foo daemon applied), and while bumping the patch level on the release sorta works to do that, it implies a new kernel and a reboot for each patch applied if it's going to be visible. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW --------------enig4B2841E627D47D72C34079BE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDpTIb8Mjk52CukIwRA5ghAJ93xPRSJJcFgNU429W6CRxTSiaf8gCdG93f DuzOr5UrL/5t59sS6UzD7EM= =aytM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig4B2841E627D47D72C34079BE--