Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 19:21:47 +0100 From: Michal Varga <varga.michal@gmail.com> To: Boris Samorodov <bsam@ipt.ru> Cc: Chuck Robey <chuckr@chuckr.org>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net> Subject: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working! Message-ID: <1200594107.29340.44.camel@xenon> In-Reply-To: <09608113@bb.ipt.ru> References: <64c038660801040516u5c42a6cpadb475ad67fb4730@mail.gmail.com> <20080104174955.52aa33fd@gumby.homeunix.com> <64c038660801041029t1a9662bayed3ca02fd46c7ece@mail.gmail.com> <64c038660801041226k1d350bc6p727e4666ea295727@mail.gmail.com> <477FFE14.1010704@monkeybrains.net> <477FFF63.50004@gmail.com> <47801D54.8050709@gmail.com> <47803E3F.2080005@monkeybrains.net> <47804901.6090007@gmail.com> <4786BF45.8030602@monkeybrains.net> <4786CEDC.3050009@chuckr.org> <20080111170711.t6wxj1bc68cgwwk4@webmail.leidinger.net> <4787E597.9040902@chuckr.org> <40077827@bb.ipt.ru> <478BC152.8060200@chuckr.org> <20080115103304.us4jtiziec44o8c0@webmail.leidinger.net> <478D09E7.5020609@chuckr.org> <07863149@bb.ipt.ru> <478D2137.1010203@chuckr.org> <41782057@bb.ipt.ru> <478E5C3F.1050301@chuckr.org> <09608113@bb.ipt.ru>
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On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 20:24 +0300, Boris Samorodov wrote: > Please, prove that you are right. Or do you want to receive a hammer > without doing it? > And why not? Give him the approval to do the patches, review them and if he is right in his approach and they work as they should, commit them? > Actually, I don't understand what you don't understand. The thread > becomes a little bit annoying to me. :-( > Well, I may be just a lurking nobody, but I think I can see his point clearly. He doesn't want to commit his (probably not insignificant) time and resources to a full-scale solution just to be turned down when he gets back with all the work done, with a simple "thank you, but you shouldn't have done all this without asking us if we are interested, actually, this is too radical for us, we don't want it, this would upset a number of port maintainers, yadda yadda, no thank you, bye". I don't think there are people every day offering you that they will do a job like moving every single linux port to /compat/ just like that for free, and the only thing he is asking for is that there is somebody who will officially back him up. He doesn't want to spend next 150 years arguing with every single linux port maintainer if his approach is wrong or right, he is looking for someone "up there" who can look at his idea, say "hey, this looks interesting, do it, if you can make it work, we will issue a new porting guidelines and deal with the maintainers". And he does sound quite reasonable. m. -- Michal Varga <varga@stonehenge.sk>, <varga.michal@gmail.com> Stonehenge Home page: http://varga.stonehenge.sk
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