From owner-freebsd-emulation Thu May 23 18:15:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org Received: from email.agssmf.com (email.agssmf.com [63.196.107.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CEB37B403; Thu, 23 May 2002 18:15:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from newtim (smf68.smf.intranet [172.20.24.68]) by email.agssmf.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g4O1FYw70796; Thu, 23 May 2002 18:15:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim_schafer@agship.com) From: "Tim E Schafer" To: "'Bill Huey'" Cc: "'Ari Suutari'" , "'Java FreeBSD'" , Subject: RE: All Linux JDK with Hotspot or JIT unstable on FreeBSD Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 18:15:07 -0700 Message-ID: <049101c202c0$71773790$441814ac@newtim> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <20020524003931.GA3255@gnuppy.monkey.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please, please do not quit. You've come so far. If there is anything I can do to help I would be honored to do so. My understanding from earlier posts is that there are some legal issues with this being an open process. What if anything could I do to become involved at the code level (or any level I might be useful) ? -------------------------------------------- Tim E Schafer tim_schafer@agship.com Programmer 800-562-9915 x190 or 916-376-6190 Associated Global Systems 3231 Evergreen Ave West Sacramento, CA 95691 -------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Bill Huey Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 5:40 PM To: Tim E Schafer Cc: 'Ari Suutari'; 'Java FreeBSD'; freebsd-emulation@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: All Linux JDK with Hotspot or JIT unstable on FreeBSD On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 04:50:43PM -0700, Tim E Schafer wrote: > Have I told you all lately how much I really appreciate the hard work > put > into making Java on FreeBSD a reality :) > > I may have to use Linux for some up coming stuff where native threads is > a make or break feature Because of the fact that our libc_r system living in one domain, context switch times and waking up a thread is pretty much just a function call away to the UTS. That means that I'm expecting threading performance to be much better than the clone() model when this is all done. Only an empirical analysis will prove or disprove this, but the claim makes sense since I've been in both the libc_r and HotSpot internals. KSE's should also make it rock. > But I dream of the day when FreeBSD is on equal ground (or better!) in > the Java arena We have a good chance of being exactly that. But a port of 1.4 is needed which means that we must have HotSpot working. -classic has been removed from that tree. NIO, SMPng and KSEs are all needed for this to come into play. We'll see. Personally, I'm getting pooped doing this and comtemplated quitting last night. I feel different today and I suspect I was suffering from depression as a result of caffine withdrawl. ;) But this project is definitely pushing to the edge of my inherent technical abilty and I not use to being overrun with this amount of technical knowledge. In other words, I'm use to conquering all. ;) bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-java" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-emulation" in the body of the message