Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:43:15 +0100 (CET) From: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl> To: Drew Baxter <netmonger@genesis.ispace.com> Cc: advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>, Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org> Subject: Re: Linux "best of breed?" Message-ID: <XFMail.981106134315.asmodai@wxs.nl> In-Reply-To: <4.1.19981105185704.00a92400@genesis.ispace.com>
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On 06-Nov-98 Drew Baxter wrote: > At 04:44 PM 11/5/98 -0700, Brett Glass wrote: > Wakeup calls would be kinda neat if they were at the bottom of the thread, > thanks. > > Lets just say, it's not the cute penguin, that's for sure. Well, I always had a knack for the Daemon. Besides, to quote some Linux people: "We should start referring to processes which run in the background by their correct technical term... paenguins." They gotta be kidding ;) Actually come to think of it, 't would be better if they started to use paenguin instead of daemon, less desecrating for the poor Daemon. =D > You're right, it could happen, all of the tools come out for Linux... A > user is a user though, even if it's some 12 year old thinking he's K-R4D > and 31337 for using Linux and smurfing the crap out of people. > Unfortunately such tools don't usually compile on FreeBSD. Is that: a) because FreeBSD's architecture is better b) Linux' architecture is better c) the coders know jack of programming > I think that this whole certification idea is going to take off though. > Hopefully this will put FreeBSD on the board somewhere.. Either way, I'm > not planning on changing, and nor are many of the people that are on here > now. And we have DEMANDS of what we want to do with it.. There, there ye have it exactly. Linux is but a kernel surrounded by a chaos of distributions in which some good ideas emerge. FreeBSD is an entire Operating System effort. Can we even compare the two then? IMHO, yes and no. Yes: we can compare the different Linux distributions and the entire FreeBSD package. We can also compare the Linux kernel with the FreeBSD kernel. No, we cannot compare FreeBSD to Linux without specifying what we're comparing. The entire problem being is that without the influx Linux generated with regard to users and programs would the combined *BSD effort have come this close as well? Aren't we already benefitting from the attention Linux gets? Aren't we getting people who liked Linux but prefer more stability with regard to the entire package instead of the Mach 3 approach Linux and all it's distributions take? As I said before, I myself, the guru friend of mine, two associates of mine all prefer FreeBSD (*BSD) over Linux for reasons that can only be described as real life experience and preference for certain things. > So your wake-up call isn't valid. Too many people post to this list let > alone the other lists. Too many places are using FreeBSD technology > integrated into their solutions, and who knows how many people didn't > register when they installed it. That's a good thing that Wes started, to accumulate the effort out there. Linux users are so keen on quoting where, what and how Linux is used. I only know of the picoBSD project, the Whistle InterJet, Pluto Space and the yes.no website from Eivind (sorry if that is the Pluto Eivind, still working on my Norwegian ;) > If suddenly -hackers is getting 2 posts a day.. And most of the regular > posters in -advocacy somehow become dead.. THEN there is a problem. First > place I'm looking, is for that damned penguin.. ;-) Heh, did they ever name it? My guess would be, Lilo, for reasons that can only be described as meanspirited =) Oh and btw, "Linux is obsolete" -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum --- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven/Asmodai asmodai(at)wxs.nl Junior Network/Security Specialist FreeBSD & picoBSD: The Power to Serve... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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