From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 30 23:12:51 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11A2A16A4CE for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:12:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lakermmtao08.cox.net (lakermmtao08.cox.net [68.230.240.31]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 953A543D41 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:12:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from mezz7@cox.net) Received: from mezz ([68.103.32.140]) by lakermmtao08.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with ESMTP id <20040630231226.UWCR17721.lakermmtao08.cox.net@mezz>; Wed, 30 Jun 2004 19:12:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 18:13:10 -0500 To: "Joe Kelsey" References: <40E3176E.40903@imagescape.com> <1088632355.93277.4.camel@zircon> <1088634031.93277.14.camel@zircon> From: "Jeremy Messenger" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1088634031.93277.14.camel@zircon> User-Agent: Opera M2/7.51 (Linux, build 689) cc: gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: x.org discussion X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:12:51 -0000 On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 15:20:31 -0700, Joe Kelsey wrote: > On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 15:10, Jeremy Messenger wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 14:52:36 -0700, Joe Kelsey >> >> wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 2004-06-30 at 12:41, Punahele Tannehill wrote: >> >> Having just scampered through a thread on questions@, I'm curious >> about >> >> people's >> >> opinions and experiences are with X.org system as compared to >> XFree86. >> >> Especially in terms of how it may or not affect future development of >> >> Gnome. >> > >> > I just replaced XFree86 with X.org. It took quite a bit of work, even >> > with the meta-port. I had major trouble with the meta-port due to >> > poorly=specified prerequisites and inability of portinstall to operate >> > on it. >> >> I have no problem here with pkgdb to replace XFree86 to xorg. > > Did I say *anything* about pkgdb in my message? I cannot use > portinstall/portupgrade to install/upgrade xorg because the ports do not > appear in the ports database. I cannot use portsdb to update the ports > database because someone changed it to no longer ignore errors related > to missing languages. Since I do not have, for instance, any japanese > directories in my checked-out files, portsdb -Uu fails dues to inability > to find these requirements when rebuilding the database. It used to > blithely ignore these errors, but no longer does. Therefore, I cannot > rebuild the database to include the xorg ports, therefore I cannot use > portinstall/portupgrade to install/upgrade the xorg ports. pkgdb -F > still works fine, except I do not know what XFree86-fontScalable > corresponds to. portupgrade works for me and portupgrade do not need to read the INDEX, but I have my own portinstall script that is not come from the portupgrade. I forgot about that I have different portinstall, so yes you are right about the one from portupgrade's portinstall will not work. =================================== # grep xorg /usr/ports/INDEX # grep xorg /usr/ports/INDEX-5 [...empty...] # ee /usr/ports/x11/xorg/Makefile (6.7.0 -> 6.7.1) # pkg_version -l \< mysql-client < xorg < # portupgrade -ra ---> Skipping 'databases/mysql41-client' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) ---> Skipping 'databases/p5-DBD-mysql41' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) ---> Skipping 'x11/nvidia-driver' because it is held by user (specify -f to force) ---> Upgrading 'xorg-6.7.0' to 'xorg-6.7.1' (x11/xorg) ---> Building '/usr/ports/x11/xorg' ===> Cleaning for libiconv-1.9.1_3 [...goes on...] =================================== I never have rebuild the INDEX at all, which it doesn't need for the portupgrade to upgrade stuff. As for XFree86-fontScalable, I just point it to xorg-fonts-truetype. Cheers, Mezz > /Joe -- mezz7@cox.net - mezz@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD GNOME Team http://www.FreeBSD.org/gnome/ - gnome@FreeBSD.org