From nobody Wed Dec 29 07:38:16 2021 X-Original-To: x11@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76DE01909E90 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 07:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JP3D81RT6z4Vn6 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 07:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 120782111A for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 07:38:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 1BT7cGFm008489 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 07:38:16 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 1BT7cGbv008488 for x11@FreeBSD.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2021 07:38:16 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: [Bug 237544] graphics/drm-fbsd12.0-kmod: panic on 12-STABLE with Radeon HD 7450 (but not with drm-fbsd11.2-kmod) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2021 07:38:16 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 12.0-STABLE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: crash, needs-qa X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: manu@freebsd.org X-Bugzilla-Status: Closed X-Bugzilla-Resolution: Overcome By Events X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: x11@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: X11 List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-x11 List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1640763496; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=ClkPDZ1e5qHPvEBZMjYoSXmCHWiH0aiqVKc1I311rpM=; b=HqIetgfjE4UYUCISsZt/OFXAi4VfWQSldkyd+0UKME3bWwdlAA7OUQxGcszv52FPp2GI6s VJttGjOiCLf0f/dF+jKVwk8x7fN9LwGQ4eENSQ6o0pChBNI69BWASpEIhXQ/zHE3o6mseO 6h1ln5jZ3aKyZw+Yhd4Xlxu+jOQ+SkFay8LnyeExakiMwPl9k2cMpXhnBo0xiWIPhWsdvw UX10LIyQBsSaQDcUyxqCZOAk0e8XpqF8SS0i62r/ppbLJ0DinCbYmn4okCZ/dT7dL1TJuO Ue4w57Z28WEPNi7k5HMzfdbxz6xeUIVFe0SC+5CPdci37qUb9qYfpk+CwYLG6A== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1640763496; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=FXmluJSXd52zxck6JFoJ1yRWV5PtfN+p8FY/ZUmJHMKuIMKopNyRWIoyjqjopl3GF4tpUF +u9RyixCs0V7l+D2jwCcOD+Sn/SO90zwfbaSOVCsE87/jQXWyg+Ms+UKqmkdbqFUIlk+Go bqBIvgdyYI/v7MpYjPXFKkHgYvXlgov51lAqSI388rB1TepuZAMkPiHS+OFUPn35BHylTJ hkjRowjW9avxc1UBoyG+DkKZSbNPYsHFXZGyFx4psxsGfvyNVwlwjmi6iY02Cbkp+er88d +E/aUssxpE/SqOf6UacVOOcnUl4ohsWntvMEi4mwSe+QS0MV7mVB8ovxac7I6g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D237544 --- Comment #9 from Emmanuel Vadot --- (In reply to Alexey Dokuchaev from comment #8) > Ideally graphics/drm-*-kmod ports should have never been tied to a partic= ular version of *FreeBSD*,=20 > but tracked that of *Linux* instead, so users could choose between e.g. = drm-4.11-kmod, drm-4.16-kmod, or drm-5.4-kmod regardless of whether they're= running 12.x or -CURRENT. In theory that could have been done, but that would have been a nightmare to manage. Also I don't see why we should give the possibility to users to install old drivers, instead we should fix bugs in newer version if one have a problem, something that I and others do regularly based on reports. None of us are upstream DRM developers and we don't know the code base much as we only loo= k at some parts when we have some problems. You can't expect us drm-kmod people (mostly wulf@ Greg V and I currently) to magically fix every bug. You can't also expect us to have all supported hardware to test. > My two-core, ten-year-old desktop at $work with Radeon HD 4350/4550 (RV71= 0) is running 2019'ish -CURRENT with drm-legacy-kmod-g20190213 and works fl= awlessly for many months, rebooting only when there's a power outage. Congratulation on running old code on old hardware. RV710 is 14 years old = not ten, and in the GPU world 4 years is a *lot*. It's also using the radeonkms driver which have more or less been abandonware upstream for quite some time and again none of us are AMD/Radeon developers. > Both 2D (movies) and 3D (games) are full and properly accelerated, CPU is= mostly idle, I can e.g. build -jX LLVM and watch some TV show fullscreen w= ith no stuttering --=20 > something I cannot do on the four-core 2018 laptop with recent DRM bits.= =20=20 And something that *I* can do on all my Intel or AMD recent hardware. Did you open a PR here or on the github page for drm-kmod so we can (maybe) help you ? (I don't remember a PR from you) > Situation with graphics on FreeBSD had never been worse, AFAIR. :-( This kind of comment is really hurtful, demotivating and simply mean. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=