From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Apr 13 18:49:57 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE62415802E9 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:49:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimpase@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-x144.google.com (mail-lf1-x144.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::144]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9588D8DAA0 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:49:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dimpase@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf1-x144.google.com with SMTP id j11so9987209lfm.0 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 11:49:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=y37BCrhnEk77nFz7hoHGjRrxnMlxRaXL3Hh3pMYrZpA=; b=BPgoYVFTGZfEu1QFS5UzyWrkuS6Be24G7d6/WvQOrexUYrzsaG8Ipqsrcr9/lEuO7C TQ2aVlTg/bEFMfyv9XyDG+xyUwehcVNGqNEm/rFeCFvfrt4MT/ZrXEL0cDIr1OQtb80X aGW4LW7WkG5Akl6gZW7qGC3SsFX/+3O4sfJY3VKiDAIX4VpsMYuOKf65y8recx3SDxxU PTOkm6AxjndybsQRExayQP4VKqyvccx3ysyt8SMOzze2bgBms188sBYhDIrzEF6UN7qw t4PbIxrkhUlzsctGr31WqBhnmWHVDQwKHlE1oGM6q2tPzSaOCKiczc+8OsrPODbiXCYg NlRQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=y37BCrhnEk77nFz7hoHGjRrxnMlxRaXL3Hh3pMYrZpA=; b=JwxJFT8EryLBtSQzmHEe18pAM3UtQYPPQzgR5gWMxkRtELmOVck2hJnciYWxjTBLu2 OdZAFgulVGXyvOw6q3yzDv40HDUAgLsVeatMf2VFKWnSK9Ut4JCk/gibop7DmQmxNR+f Dtwtmv6FhD2n1LF9gQX/sbfNOHE1xU3DNBwhREQILA1P5x+PbCNNlY1uHFkTfkJD59mz yDedv0nS2jBXOWGsmCW3+865mvFbU+v+kM8/oFvYJaDHhrd4nn3Z1LEcb6yhefDV48Em FkSlvnKRcgFW0Ag1OpZdWYpSY2JrewfjfyzWa/iphknh+pVMD5hQ3bsFQ/cQC5sdGZoy SH8A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWJy3Uk3Du0OfIz4/cMREB+CizkKMJNlVCnbz6U+imEvtvNwktf loo9koJWtJpteVMR+GTEMCt+YnGTE/BL3uDzTnOUlAFCvuXsRA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwi1KU3ySHVVpPG5NmO3BRYc66IN5Rrb6NlJwQAUuCwMy7Ja7R8SQnxvoltHTq3ZOO/LbJVnpR69csTL6kyRas= X-Received: by 2002:a19:7007:: with SMTP id h7mr17661847lfc.23.1555181394849; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 11:49:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20190413175954.GA29960@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> In-Reply-To: <20190413175954.GA29960@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> From: Dima Pasechnik Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 20:49:43 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ports/lang major version updates outside of OS version updates To: FreeBSD Ports Cc: Roger Marquis Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 9588D8DAA0 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=BPgoYVFT; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dimpase@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::144 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dimpase@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.47 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.10)[-0.105,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.996,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.4.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-0.36)[ip: (2.83), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.39), asn: 15169(-2.19), country: US(-0.06)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:49:58 -0000 On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 8:01 PM Steve Kargl wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 07:35:25AM -0700, Roger Marquis wrote: > > >> On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 11:18:50PM +0200, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > >>> So there is more "software bureaucracy" here than just applying one patch. > > > > You sure about that Dima? Whether one or several the patching doesn't > > appear to be complicated or difficult to maintain. > > > > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 02:58:22PM -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > For those people following along in the mailing list, Dima > > > sent me a private reply that took this thread off the list. > > > I am done trying to help fix the python ports. > > > > Thanks for the good work Steve. > > > > Many of us are still wondering why this change was made outside of a > > major OS version update. Wouldn't that have prevented the build bug > > which started this thread? > > > > Considering the incompatibilities between python 2.X and 3.x (which > > Guido has admitted was a mistake) please consider this a ports policy > > request to require significant lang/* version updates be predicated on > > equally significant OS version updates. > > > > My patches have absolutely nothing to do with making > 3.6 the default python version. > > I have added functions to libm that are included in > two ISO standards. This causes a name conflict with > sinpi() in python. My patches trivially rename > python's sinpi() to avoid the conflict. For some reason > beyond the comprehension of mortal man, python@freebsd > refuses to add the patches to the port. they asked for these patches to be upstreamed, and I did it, so these patches now are in not yet released upstream python 2 and python 3 branches. Backporting them to python@freebsd is totally trivial. What else can be done here? I can add these patches to the bug tracker... Dima > > -- > Steve > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"