From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 21 10:01:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA10952 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10925; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:01:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26959; Thu, 21 May 1998 10:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , fpawlak@execpc.com, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, kline@tera.tera.com, freebsd@atipa.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Enough already! (Re: Why we should support Microsoft...) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 21 May 1998 08:26:30 PDT." <19980521082629.B25066@mooseriver.com> Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 10:01:10 -0700 Message-ID: <26954.895770070@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At the last BAFUG meeting I had a conversation with the head tech person at > a large ISP here in the bay area know for it's use of FreeBSD. He told me > the story of how microsoft was putting serious pressure on ISPs to drop > Unix in general and switch to NT. microsoft was at the same time going Those rats. Well, in some ways, this is good and let me tell you why: NT is just plain NOT READY YET, a fact which most admins who've attempted to seriously deploy it in the field are well aware of, and by pushing it into places where it's not appropriate to push it yet, M$ is doing an excellent job of shooting their feet off. Once so burned, even the most middle-of-the-road admin is going to become a fire-and-brimstone evangelist in the cause of free Unix and that's really good for us. Someday NT _will_ be ready, the inevitable outcome of having an infinite number of monkeys and $$$ to throw at the problem, and when it does there will be a whole slew of folks who aren't even willing to look at it because they were just screwed too badly during its less stable days. Well, that's my theory, anyway. :-) But yes, we should focus on leveraging this fact (NT ain't ready) and do as much grass-roots advertising of our own as we can. As some military guy was once reputed to have said: "Give me the boy from 5 to 12 and I'll give you the man." People tend to stick with what works, if you can keep the pointy-haired bosses out of the decision (and that's a factor we'll always have to keep well in mind). - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message