From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 22 03:10:11 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@hub.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E52016A41F for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E3E43D45 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:10:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (gnats@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j7M3AArR068862 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:10:10 GMT (envelope-from gnats@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j7M3AA9l068861; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:10:10 GMT (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:10:10 GMT Message-Id: <200508220310.j7M3AA9l068861@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Cc: Subject: Re: docs/85104: keyboard(4) manpage hides behind Xorg version X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Gary W. Swearingen" List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 03:10:11 -0000 The following reply was made to PR docs/85104; it has been noted by GNATS. From: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) To: Dejan Lesjak Cc: bug-followup@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/85104: keyboard(4) manpage hides behind Xorg version Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:10:48 -0700 Dejan Lesjak writes: > I could still argue though that changing PATH is as advanced as changing > MANPATH, but it doesn't feel like it :) > So with default PATH and man path, user should get FreeBSD keyboard manpage > first and could explicitly specify 'man 4x keyboard' to get X11 manpage which > is what ports/25576 was trying to address. It sounds like Giorgos is arguing the same way, so you outvote me. But don't you HAVE to change the default path after installing X11? I sure hope the ports system isn't messin' with my "profile". And where do we learn to put more-custom directories at the end of PATH instead of the beginning (where I think they belong)? The several examples of PATH setting in the Handbook show both theories (even within the same PATH), with mine favored, including: PATH=/usr/X11R6/bin:$PATH; (One theory is that more-custom directories should override less-custom ones so you can easily "replace" their programs; the other theory is that doing so makes it too easy to get unexpected custom behavior from less-custom programs.) > But then again if you change PATH so X11 stuff is first perhaps it is expected > to also get manpages for X11 first? Yes, but it's not expected (by me) to be so hard to display both manpages. But this will only waste a small amount of time for a small fraction of FreeBSD users, so it's no big deal. Suspend or close the PR.