From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Mar 27 22:51:04 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DDCB16A4CE for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:51:04 +0000 (GMT) Received: from mx1a.swcp.com (mx1a.swcp.com [216.184.2.64]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D44043D53 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:51:03 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from crs@swcp.com) Received: from taka.swcp.com (taka-216.swcp.com [216.184.2.3]) by mx1a.swcp.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Debian-6) with ESMTP id j2RMp2EZ012144 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:51:02 -0700 Received: from quail.sorsby.org (sorsby.org [216.184.15.51]) by taka.swcp.com (8.13.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j2RMp0PS070436 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:51:01 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from crs@swcp.com) Received: (from crs@localhost) by quail.sorsby.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01070 for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:50:59 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from crs) Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 15:50:59 -0700 (MST) From: Charlie Sorsby Message-Id: <200503272250.PAA01070@quail.sorsby.org> To: questions@freebsd.org X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.83, clamav-milter version 0.83 on av1.swcp.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on kaimen.swcp.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 required=10.0 tests=MSGID_FROM_MTA_SHORT autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Level: *** Subject: Help! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: crs@swcp.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005 22:51:04 -0000 Every time I turn round, someone is telling me that I should update to a more recent version of freeBSD. Each time I try, I encounter nothing but trouble. Before I even begin: *CAN* freeBSD be installed on the fourth of four SCSI disk drives on the second of two SCSI cards? I know of no way to record the error messages other than with pencil and paper -- not a very efficient method in this computer age, especially when one is in the throes of frustration. I tried some time ago, updating to 4.5, the latest version for which I have a CDROM. When I encountered problems and queried this list, I received a message to the effect that the installer should quit working after X years. Perhaps that was tongue in cheek but it was singularly unhelpful. So, I continued to use 3.4 which, aside from the fact that I can't add anything new or update any ports or ... has stood me in good stead for years. Finally getting tired of using netscape 4.76 -- I've been unsuccessful at finding any "modern" browser that I can install under 3.4 -- and having it crashed by "modern" web sites, I decided to try again. I fetched the floppy images for 4.11 -- I have no interest in 5.x, 4.x is far enough removed from real BSD that I wouldn't go that route it I had a choice. Busy with other things, I finally got round to trying an ftp install today. Before I proceed, I suppose that I'd best tell you what my system comprises: M'board: Intel D845WN CPU: P4, 2.4GHz, 478, 512K, 400MHz FSB Memory: Crucial 512MB, 168-pin, DIMM 64Mx64, PC133 SDRAM Case: Antec Sonata with Antec "TruePower" supply. SCSI cards (presently, the Adaptec is in the PCI slot closer to the CPU): Adaptec 2940 Tekram DC-390U2W Ethernet; Intel PRO100S Disk drives (The first three are on the 2940, the fourth on the Tekram): IBM DORS-32160 WA0A, 2GB (from original system, with leftover freeBSD 2.1.5 stuff, no longer bootable.) Seagate ST34501N 0015, 4GB (with freeBSD 3.4) Seagate ST39216N 0010, 9GB (/home -- no OS) Seagate ST318517W 0105, 18GB (on which I tried to install 4.5 before and 4.11 today. CDROM drive: Plextor (don't recall specs.) Video card: Matrox Millennium G400, AGP4X, 32MB SGRAM Oh -- FWIW, I'm also running XFree86 4.1.0 although that should not be relevant to the installation problem but, like the feller says, for the sake of completeness... (I'll append -- at the end of this message -- dmesg from latest boot after unsuccessful installation to cover anything that I've forgotten. This system has simply evolved over the years.) I hope I won't forget any parts of this; I had to get back to 3.4 in order to be able to do this e-mail. I got through the fdisk and disklabel (re)configuration of the fourth disk onto which I planned to install freeBSD 4.11 (having selected "Standard Install") Here's what I tried to set up as (Unix) partitions (remember this is on the 18GB drive): / 128MB # Thought this should be more than enough swap 512MB /usr 4196MB /var 512MB /usr/local 4196MB /tmp 512MB /spare # Everything else -- to be disposed of later. I then proceeded to choose the installation "package" or whatever it's called -- I chose "ALL" and then replied yes to the query about installing the ports collection. I believe that the next query was the choice of installation medium; I chose (the first) ftp and the first (ftp.freebsd.org?) server in the list and fetching the bits and pieces began. Within a very few minutes, the installer complained that it had run out of space on / -- why it would have tried to fetch everything to the root partition is beyond me but that's what it said. Oh -- there was one previous complaint about not being able to create a swap partition that I'd requested as partition b. I don't understand that, either. Aside (just in case it may be relevant): Recently, I've not been able to boot the CDROM. I had no reason to try when I rebuilt the system some time ago with the Intel m'board and Antec case. I first noticed it some time ago when I tried to install 4.5. I had never had a problem with the old Gigabyte m'board system. As I said, I don't know if this is relevant but thought I'd better mention it just in case. Here's the dmesg output: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.4-RELEASE #6: Tue Jun 29 08:43:56 MDT 2004 root@quail.sorsby.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/KERNEL.CRS Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 2392250892 Hz CPU: unknown (2392.25-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0xf27 Stepping = 7 Features=0xbfebfbff,,,MMX,FXSR,,,,,,> real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) config> di wdc1 config> di wdc0 config> q avail memory = 519696384 (507516K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02e4000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc02e409c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x05 on pci0.30.0 chip3: rev 0x05 on pci0.31.0 uhci0: rev 0x05 int d irq 11 on pci0.31.2 (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24428086) uhci1: rev 0x05 int c irq 11 on pci0.31.4 (New UHCI DeviceId=0x24448086) Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x04 int a irq 11 on pci1.0.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 2: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci2.10.0 ahc0: aic7870 Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ncr0: rev 0x01 int a irq 11 on pci2.11.0 fxp0: rev 0x0c int a irq 10 on pci2.12.0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:02:b3:eb:02:ba Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 irq 12 on isa psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppb0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: PRINTER MLC,PCL,PML,DW-PCL,DYN,DESKJET lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface usb0: uhub0 at usb0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered usb1: uhub1 at usb1 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub1: device problem, disabling port 2 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle changing root device to da1s1a da3 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da3: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da3: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da3: 17547MB (35937500 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 2237C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4339MB (8887200 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 2063MB (4226725 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 263C) Thank you for any help you may be able to provide. Kindest regards, Charlie -- Charlie Sorsby crs@swcp.com P. O. Box 1225 Edgewood, NM 87015 USA