From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Feb 8 08:58:10 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4E6A16A4CE for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:58:10 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ctb-mesg6.saix.net (ctb-mesg6.saix.net [196.25.240.78]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E346A43D5D for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 08:58:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from greg@propdata.co.za) Received: from intraweb.propdata.co.za (nngy-165-166-87.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.166.87]) by ctb-mesg6.saix.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D69E163C7 for ; Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:58:05 +0200 (SAST) Received: (qmail 26218 invoked by uid 1015); 8 Feb 2005 09:03:38 -0000 Received: from 192.168.0.6 by intraweb.propdata.co.za (envelope-from , uid 1013) with qmail-scanner-1.24-st-qms (clamdscan: 0.80/659. spamassassin: 3.0.1. perlscan: 1.24-st-qms. Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.6):. Processed in 0.567642 secs); 08 Feb 2005 09:03:38 -0000 X-Antivirus-PROPDATA-Mail-From: greg@propdata.co.za via intraweb.propdata.co.za X-Antivirus-PROPDATA: 1.24-st-qms (Clear:RC:1(192.168.0.6):. Processed in 0.567642 secs Process 26212) Received: from unknown (HELO fyre.codelounge.co.za) (192.168.0.6) by intraweb.propdata.co.za with SMTP; 8 Feb 2005 09:03:37 -0000 From: Greg Armer To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20050208085341.GB57256@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> References: <20050208034855.D211E43D45@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20050208085341.GB57256@cirb503493.alcatel.com.au> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 10:57:38 +0200 Message-Id: <1107853058.602.18.camel@fyre.codelounge.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 13:04:58 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 Subject: Re: The case for FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2005 08:58:11 -0000 On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 19:53 +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On Mon, 2005-Feb-07 21:48:48 -0600, supraexpress@globaleyes.net wrote: > > FreeBSD's > >'DOS-like menu' system is a travisty and IS PROBABLY THE ONE THING THAT TURNS > >OFF MORE PROSPECTIVE FBSD USERS THAN ANYTHING ELSE - I know - I have heard! > > An X-based GUI would be worse - the installer size would grow about 50 > times and the minimum RAM requirements would grow several times. > Given FreeBSDs target (servers) it's important the the installer run > over a serial port. I have to agree here, and add there is nothing like installing an entire server OS in 7 minutes. > > >I offer the following suggestions for cogitation and realize that some > >of MY choices may not be "the best", but here goes anyhow: > > Unfortunately, your patches to implement this got lost in transit. > Could you resend them please :-) > Greg