From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 31 20:48:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1704216A4DA; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:48:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Received: from postman.atlantis.dp.ua (postman.atlantis.dp.ua [193.108.47.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A40843D45; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:48:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Received: from atlantis.dp.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by postman.atlantis.dp.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k7VKlsBa054241; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:47:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Received: from localhost (dmitry@localhost) by atlantis.dp.ua (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with ESMTP id k7VKlsuU054238; Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:47:54 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:47:54 +0300 (EEST) From: Dmitry Pryanishnikov To: Helge Oldach In-Reply-To: <200608311842.UAA24464@galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com> Message-ID: <20060831233710.G45877@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> References: <200608311842.UAA24464@galaxy.hbg.de.ao-srv.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: cvs-src@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "Chatty" config files in /etc X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:48:02 -0000 Hello! On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Helge Oldach wrote: >>> 127.0.0.1 localhost >>> ::1 localhost >> >> Noting the RFC 1918 addresses in the default /etc/hosts is *very* useful. >> If we (part of the Inetnet community) wants to encourage proper IP use, >> we shouldn't hide this information in an obscure, seldom (?never?) >> visited directory. > > And so is noting actual IP address(es) and host name(s) in /etc/hosts, > to overcome lack of network connectivity or reachability of a proper DNS > server during boot. Specifically if the server in question *is* the name > server. > > Actually, /etc/hosts is very likely touched by the sysadmin on most > machines. Definitely on all that I take care of. That's exactly why I vote for removal of the most comments from this file. This file is for defining IP <- hostname mapping, NOT for teaching sysadmins how to manage IP address allocations. I remove these useless comments on every our host, and mergemaster keeps showing me them on every upgrade. Also I vote for removal of the useless "Example entries" section in /etc/login.conf as well as examples in /etc/namedb/named.conf. People should get a good habit of reading documentation (e.g. manpages) instead of grabbing random pieces of knowlege from sample configs. Sincerely, Dmitry -- Atlantis ISP, System Administrator e-mail: dmitry@atlantis.dp.ua nic-hdl: LYNX-RIPE