From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Oct 30 00:35:05 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA24368 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 00:35:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA24350 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 00:34:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archer@grape.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: from sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@sivka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.101]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.6/8.Who.Cares) with ESMTP id KAA12023 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:34:24 +0200 (EET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sivka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id KAA20928; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:32:50 +0200 (EET) Received: (from archer@localhost) by grape.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA28272; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:26:17 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <19971030102615.09637@grape.carrier.kiev.ua> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:26:15 +0200 From: Alexander Litvin To: dg@root.com Cc: "Jamil J. Weatherbee" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Cyclades :( References: <199710300212.SAA01513@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <199710300212.SAA01513@implode.root.com>; from David Greenman on Wed, Oct 29, 1997 at 06:12:59PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Wed, Oct 29, 1997 at 06:12:59PM -0800, David Greenman wrote: > > > >... Maybye you should let Cyclades do the drivers. They might work then. > > Jamil, this comment is without merit and does absolutely nothing to help > with the problem. Cyclades is quite familiar with the driver in FreeBSD and > has done extensive testing with both the ISA and PCI product under FreeBSD. > They haven't seen any problems in their testing, but of course that doesn't > mean that a problem doesn't exist. The device driver for the PCI version is > the same driver that the ISA card uses, the only difference is that the PCI > front-end memory-maps the registers into the address space at device attach > time. There might be a hardware problem with the PCI interface that is causing > the reboots, but at the moment, there is insufficient information to diagnose > the problem further. I have not been able to reproduce the reboots here. I > suspect that it is going to take a PCI bus analyzer to figure this one out. Well, I forgot to say: reboots doesn't happen when you just plag in Cyclades. All four boxes -- quite busy access servers, from 10 to 15 dialup modems. As for comment about using Cyclades for connecting serial terminals -- I mentioned that reboots happen with "getty" and don't with "mgetty", so callout devices are ok. What ditails can I provide? That's not panics, I don't have crashdumps. May be exact hardware configurations? If so -- I'll test it once again and write exactly all hardware details. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Core-team/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project -- Litvin Alexander