From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Thu Dec 15 19:15:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B8CC82701 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 19:15:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mazhe@alkumuna.eu) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7F111991 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 19:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mazhe@alkumuna.eu) Received: from yggdrasil.alkumuna.eu (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e35:8a74:6e70:232:36ff:fe5c:3a87]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 82B8AB0054E; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:15:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from freedom.alkumuna.eu ([IPv6:2a01:e35:8a74:6e70:62a4:4cff:fe54:b212]) (authenticated bits=0) by yggdrasil.alkumuna.eu (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id uBFJFIjK021082 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:15:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mazhe@alkumuna.eu) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 20:15:17 +0100 From: Matthieu Volat To: list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: The ports collection has some serious issues Message-ID: <20161215201517.2e6bcd39@freedom.alkumuna.eu> In-Reply-To: <20161215183122.GG5268@pol-server.leissner.se> References: <20161208085926.GC2691@gmail.com> <3b00e76a-7a97-aa1b-72e9-236161044c3b@m5p.com> <20161215183122.GG5268@pol-server.leissner.se> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.1 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/jU6g+MDKYSul.WTvqM+pBEO"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alkumuna.eu; s=default; t=1481829321; bh=2RPSxEx/73Yxh3uT7/uHFnOkd6uZL1uNgrE7K93uC3I=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qrxez07BYDDuAb9YzcYwLoK60ONT6kfMnc7p2lMab5c881Hwh8tgmWKKPNh40U2QU2Q/w4tMKjQAfIS5rMhHkV+00ggHpvqpt9T0JxIJjdPp50MulLe8I/ZQmO2rE0SJBuTpSC24XxtfbGb7Wl3EenAN/tCT/OS1paG5xzq3iiQ= X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 19:15:29 -0000 --Sig_/jU6g+MDKYSul.WTvqM+pBEO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 19:31:22 +0100 list-freebsd-ports@jyborn.se wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 01:18:05PM -0500, George Mitchell wrote: > > On 12/15/16 09:40, Warren Block wrote: > > > On Thu, 8 Dec 2016, Matt Smith wrote: > > >=20 > > >> On Dec 08 05:16, Daniil Berendeev wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Although portmaster is not releated to the FreeBSD project and is an > > >>> outside tool, there aren't any alternatives from the project itself= . So > > >>> use it or die. Not a nice situation. > > >> > > >> People have been trying to get portmaster deprecated and removed from > > >> the handbook but have met with resistance. > > >=20 > > > Well, yes. Because it works, has no dependencies, and there is no > > > equivalent replacement. [...] > >=20 > > Warren, you have hit the nail on the head. -- George >=20 > +1 >=20 > I never have problems with portmaster. > (But portupgrade could at times be an utter mess, > I never looked back after switching to portmaster > many years ago.) >=20 > And I'm not at all interested in running poudriere > or synth, thank you. >=20 It seems that if people happy with portmaster keep silent, others will assu= me it's okay to try to dismiss it; so here am I, happy with portmaster. I could switch to something else that is feature wise similar; but if it wo= uld not written in some quasi-obselete/niche/hipster programing language or= involve admin/config tasks like creating repos. Until a challenger appears, I'm just going to use and recommend portmaster. Happy bsding everybody -- Matthieu --Sig_/jU6g+MDKYSul.WTvqM+pBEO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQTxuiqPSkQnzRDOjsP4Q0N5gpmLfgUCWFLrxQAKCRD4Q0N5gpmL fgl4AJ0f07zAhazYqmjezPxgBGPXMSA+kQCfXCRElGCekkJDNDx3aTgGCtTPtrU= =Nxn7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/jU6g+MDKYSul.WTvqM+pBEO--