From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 21 16:13:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from firewall.symark.com (firewall.symark.westlake.iswest.net [207.178.203.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8367937BC7F for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:13:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ggross@symark.com) Received: (from mailer@localhost) by firewall.symark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01811; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:13:21 -0800 Received: from minnow.symark.com(128.1.1.70) by firewall.symark.com via smap (V2.1/2.1+anti-relay+anti-spam) id xma001803; Tue, 21 Mar 00 16:13:09 -0800 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:12:58 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Gross X-Sender: ggross@minnow To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: dot-0 releases In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a quick note... despite my problems with the upgrade process, I have found the r.c. 3 snapshot to be a pleasure to install and run. It is remarkably good despite its rough edges and I think all the programmers should be commended for their excellent work. It's great to be able to install KDE and have X working right "out of the box." Glen Gross Unix Technical Support Specialist SYMARK SOFTWARE 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 Main: 818-865-6100 FAX: 818-889-1894 http://www.symark.com Technical Support: unix-support@symark.com On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: > About time this thread got its own subject line. > > On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, David Murphy wrote: > > >Then we're in agreement on what an X.0 release should be. I'm > >genuinely glad we understand each other, and would suggest that a note > >similar to the above in the release notes/announcement would greatly > >improve the new user's understanding of what X.0-RELEASE is and is not > >suited for/aimed at. > > >From http://www.cdrom.com/titles/freebsd/bsd40offer.phtml: > > "FreeBSD 4.0 will probably be released in March 2000 as a > fully-operational release, rather than a Snapshot. However, we don't > expect all FreeBSD customers are quite ready for a major "dot-0" release > so we're only offering it to those of you brave souls who REALLY want > it." > > >From http://www.freebsdmall.com/software/: > > "FreeBSD 4.0 - A full, professional quality, UNIX-compatible operating > system. Prerelease for developers and early-adopters. Not appropriate > for production-level environment yet." > > If you're a new user the above certainly warns you. If you're getting 4.0 > via cvsup, installing over the internet or are downloading the > setup files from an ftp site, chances are you also are bright enough to do a > little bit of research before installing. Generalizations aside, there > will always be brutes who would rather learn to wear safety goggles > after something in their blue collar environment decides to go > careening into their cornea. > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > | -Brandon D. Valentine bandix at looksharp.net > | bandix on EFnet IRC BVRiker on AIM > ------------------------------------------------------------- > | "...and as for hackers, we note that all of those known to > | The Register are so strapped financially that seizing their > | property would be tantamount to squeezing blood from a > | stone." -- The Register, 02/17/2000 > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message