From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 26 06:19:44 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6262D106566B for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:19:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lichray@gmail.com) Received: from mail-qw0-f54.google.com (mail-qw0-f54.google.com [209.85.216.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5B98FC17 for ; Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwc9 with SMTP id 9so1146711qwc.13 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:19:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=xyTxHw9XZ3rHn4lzkyQ+Efl7sLDICF4QePOQqaknZ34=; b=Yt/Zm+md5aF4P1Ch3dqMb4NZQl5qMcklC3CiFe5xNlSZ1wJJEQCYnsnNiTaJDOJ6e0 FXeCLd1GpkOkWLnuxR7zr9GQ4YEpC1mD9b1sK+WqQvEn5D5iiXEpgKNzdRfpKsgbrTI2 pQzp2JAJXxg0zTd757jwQbjXl76VTywji6D5I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Sl16o3codmKNPmUGlm+pJgDrDFaAymgEXZiHZZIrAEu038Br1gJk6Hsz3lYa2udczX tgZclkrhWgdPE/P4So2YFC5w4bMbGFsDfHGmQ3osaGIsPUJOHB0exRaNEJ+pp3I9g6qM GdQVqT2aN1z97N/y1D5l1UF1wZIO1BWY1HgOQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.138.16 with SMTP id y16mr1423295qat.255.1301120383194; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.20.19 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:19:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110324111118.GF65750@cicely7.cicely.de> <20110324221757.GA20441@mud.stack.nl> <20110325094044.GA41319@mud.stack.nl> <20110325134537.GB21904@pix.net> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 01:19:43 -0500 Message-ID: From: Zhihao Yuan To: Kurt Lidl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Johan van Selst , Arnaud Lacombe , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Bernd Walter , Pan Tsu , ticso@cicely.de Subject: Re: [GSoC] About the idea: Unicode support in vi X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 06:19:44 -0000 On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Zhihao Yuan wrote: > On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Kurt Lidl wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 10:40:44AM +0100, Johan van Selst wrote: >>> Zhihao Yuan wrote: >>> > > Could you please eleborate on the nvi-devel problems? I'm the curre= nt >>> > > maintainer of this port, and as far as I know it's fully functional= . >>> > 1. It does not support non-Unicode encodings. Actually, these >>> > encodings are mainstream in multi-byte encodings world. A proper >>> > iconv-awared implementation should be able to handle all of the >>> > encodings in `iconv -l`; >>> > 2. It depends on DB3/4. We won't accept DB3/4 in base system and we >>> > won't accept nvi-devel. >>> > 3. It's not 100% compatible with nvi 1.79. >>> >>> Thank you for explaining. Indeed, all valid points and I fully agree >>> that nvi-devel is not fit for inclusion in base as it is. In fact, the >>> nvi from base is probably a better starting point (than nvi-devel) to >>> create an editor that is fully compatible with nvi 1.79 and supports al= l >>> multi-byte encodings. And when you, or someone, else creates such an >>> editor, I will be pleased to remove the obsoleted port of nvi-devel. >> >> Has anyone looked at the nvi work that has taken place in NetBSD >> in the last year or so? > > I have checked that. It's just a latest nvi 1.85. > >> >> I think they've put in a bunch of wide character support. =C2=A0I'm not >> sure if their DB code relies on bdb newer than what is in libc or not. >> >> -Kurt >> > > -- > Zhihao Yuan > The best way to predict the future is to invent it. > Sorry to spam in the group... Since the application time is coming, I do need a possible mentor. I was told that nvi in the base system was not managed by a dedicated people. So I hope I can talk with someone who is free during the summer, and has some interests to help me :) --=20 Zhihao Yuan The best way to predict the future is to invent it.