From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 11 04:10:23 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21A637B401 for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 04:10:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ntli.net (pc1-glfd2-4-cust59.glfd.cable.ntl.com [81.99.187.59]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5D543FE9 for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 04:10:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from aqua.lan.palfreman.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ntli.net (8.12.3p2/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h4BBJwKU089090; Sun, 11 May 2003 12:19:58 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from william@palfreman.com) Received: from localhost (william@localhost)h4BBJwVD089087; Sun, 11 May 2003 12:19:58 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: aqua.lan.palfreman.com: william owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 12:19:58 +0100 (BST) From: William Palfreman To: "Ernest H. Rice" In-Reply-To: <200305102002.39916.ehr3@ehr3.com> Message-ID: <20030511110322.J79934@ndhn.yna.cnyserzna.pbz> References: <200305102002.39916.ehr3@ehr3.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: E-mail, graphical and otherwise X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 11:10:24 -0000 On Sat, 10 May 2003, Ernest H. Rice wrote: > For quite some time I have been able to configure sendmail to use a > smart host for relaying of my email to the outside world. I would > just point sendmail at my ISP's mail system, and away my email would > go to its intended recipient. I don't do this. I bypass my ISPs mail system entirely, by letting sendmail on my workstation get on with its job, and work out where to send the email to via the MX record. If you look through my message headers you'll see there are no hops between my cable modem and either mx1.freebsd.org or mail.ehr3.com, depending on which recipient you are. That's because I don't have a smarthost set - no need to. There was only one other bit of configuration to do, not working by default. To be able to actually send to FreeBSD mailing lists, I had to add Djntli.net to my sendmail.cf file - for some reason, mx1.freebsd.org requires senders to have an domain with an MX record to post, or else it 450s them - HELO command rejected. Anyone's domain name will do though, as long as you don't want to ever receive email from them with usernames that aren't local. I know I don't want to ever receive mail from ntli.net, so that should be just fine. Personally, I don't see how this hold back spammers much, but it does stop users of newly set up FreeBSD workstations from posting to this mailing list, although they can mail the rest of the Internet fine. Must be good training for them, having to work out the Dj directive in sendmail.cf before they can start asking questions. Forces self-reliance. Bill. -- W. Palfreman. I'm looking for a job. Read my CV at: Tel: 0771 355 0354 www.palfreman.com/william/cv-wfp2.html