From nobody Sat Dec 25 08:41:57 2021 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CB61900B04 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 08:42:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d7000419c695.28c34811a91c28b0333402a6560df67a@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JLcqk0yyTz3rK2 for ; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 08:42:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4d7000419c695.28c34811a91c28b0333402a6560df67a@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1640421730; x=1643013730; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=4rbZTh8k7kdMinmFqN+BgSnnytyMWtQJ+EY5zKkZccA=; b=uDCB6UIzQmi7iCFlb0zDAhfVhtZJl6HFvxfsrekddLI+5w+LJdKh0MV3LlkW1yyIWQ+SQmwvF0mciZYut4cXI4aeyyr18dfY4UbZ/Vwy8Rq6W0qZrlI1oTGSmxzgsg5kz5KJNv2IUOJAKDAsE3rhUxBg9DAbwxFtkEXQS3L1YVI= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkNzAwMDQxOWM2OTUucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r4.h.in.socketlabs.com (s1-b40f.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.180.15]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 25 Dec 2021 03:42:00 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r4.h.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sat, 25 Dec 2021 03:41:59 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1n12co-0001W4-8t for questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Dec 2021 08:41:57 +0000 Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2021 08:41:57 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Half OT: laptop reccomendations Message-Id: <20211225084157.f2106bda7e9b977a49bd36df@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20211225092321.359749cf@archlinux> References: <87a6gsq5o8.fsf@betla.home> <0af3dadb-7b1d-e660-037b-0f3ba58b9ad5@netfence.it> <861r23ti4j.fsf@betla.kvm> <3eaef9ee-2e36-fcfe-cc19-d4a23454ac6a@netfence.it> <20211225034612.0497b7415dc039ed53e3725a@sohara.org> <20211225092321.359749cf@archlinux> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JLcqk0yyTz3rK2 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=uDCB6UIz; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4d7000419c695.28c34811a91c28b0333402a6560df67a@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4d7000419c695.28c34811a91c28b0333402a6560df67a@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.70 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.999]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d7000419c695.28c34811a91c28b0333402a6560df67a@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4d7000419c695.28c34811a91c28b0333402a6560df67a@email-od.com]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 09:23:21 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 25 Dec 2021 03:46:12 +0000, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > >Sidecar - you know you always wanted to carry that rack mounted server. > > That's the best recommendation ever. A pity that I didn't recommended > it, since I know somebody who owns a https://www.imz-ural.com/ , > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMZ-Ural . An older one, that looks like > an old faithful German BMW. Since it looks like a BMW, but is from > Russia, you might guess it's as reliable as a BMW and an AK-47, but it > isn't. It's as reliable as an USA operating system named Windows. I used to own the Cossack variant of that machine - mine was as reliable as a BMW or AK-47, it would start first time[1] in the pouring rain despite 6 volt electrics, a missing electrics cover plate, a loose HT lead and (as I discovered much later) one piston that lacked both rings and skirt (I never looked at the other one). It would also go *anywhere*, it was a close match for a Landrover as an offroad vehicle - railway sidings are scary things to ride up and down. [1] If you had the knack, otherwise you could kick it all day without it starting. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith