From owner-freebsd-net Fri Nov 22 12:20:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E4A37B401 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:20:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE0F43E4A for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:20:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org (12-232-168-4.client.attbi.com[12.232.168.4]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <20021122202010001004p5jke>; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:20:11 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA15092; Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:16:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 12:16:23 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: John Polstra Cc: net@freebsd.org, sam@errno.com Subject: Re: CFR: MFC of mtags In-Reply-To: <200211221645.gAMGjKPH082267@vashon.polstra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org He does have a point I have binary 3rd party drivers I rely on. On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, John Polstra wrote: > In article <196301c291e9$56d25e70$52557f42@errno.com>, Sam Leffler > wrote: > > I want to commit the mbuf packet tag changes to stable. These > > changes replace the aux mbuf pointer in the mbuf with a list of > > "packet tags". This does not change the size of the mbuf structure > > but does affect any software that uses them (presently only KAME > > ipsec which has been patched to use packet tags instead). >=20 > I would strongly prefer that you not put this into the 4.x branch. > The project has a policy against incompatible ABI changes within the > -stable branch. If you do this MFC then those of us who rely on > third-party binary-only network drivers (such as the ET Inc. drivers, > upon which I and many others rely for network connectivity) will be > SOL. Changing the ABI within the branch is unfair to the vendors who > try to maintain drivers for FreeBSD, and it only discourages them from > trying to support our operating system. Let's just let the 4.x branch > live out the rest of its life span in a compatible way. >=20 > John > --=20 > John Polstra > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington = USA > "Disappointment is a good sign of basic intelligence." -- Ch=F6gyam Tr= ungpa >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message