From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 19 05:05:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9A116A469 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:05:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slvhwke@optusnet.com.au) Received: from mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.133.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29A6113C4BA for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:05:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slvhwke@optusnet.com.au) Received: from daisy (c210-49-253-163.ipswc1.qld.optusnet.com.au [210.49.253.163]) by mail25.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.13.1/8.13.1) with SMTP id l5J55N94009801; Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:05:24 +1000 Message-ID: <002b01c7b22f$7338d560$a3fd31d2@daisy> From: "Gemma Fletcher" To: References: <200706152133.27118.slvhwke@optusnet.com.au><20070615114110.GA76255@rebelion.Sisis.de><200706162045.57727.slvhwke@optusnet.com.au> <200706181743.l5IHhBHH021336@smtpclu-6.eunet.yu> Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:05:26 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Cc: Nikola Lecic Subject: Re: KDE 3.5 Crashing X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2007 05:05:39 -0000 Hello Gemma, Hello Nikola > Although it really looks like hardware, you can also do this to be 100% > sure it isn't software related: > > (1) Had you used that computer before you have installed FreeBSD? It > would be a nice idea to post here the output of your 'dmesg' > or /var/log/messages. Yes it was running XP - will post output once I finalise this car sale and have a spare moment. :) > (2) Have you tried to run a small script as Matthias proposed? Not yet - am reading up on how to run a script :) > (3) Are you sure your ports are up-to-date? If in doubt, install > ports-mgmt/portupgrade and run > > # portversion -v -L = To cut a long scary story short sort of. I've actually reinstalled 6.2, 4 times as I seem to have so many little things missing I wasn't sure if it was me or the install. So upgrading ports always eneded up crashing. Anyway first few times went the full install, final time went with as just a user install without X. After that i installed X and then KDE from the ports collection. Attempted a 7.2 upgrade thinking that might help a few problems and in a word - nightmare. A week later after finally getting past the libxfct step the actual upgrade crashed as it couldn't seem to create the xorg-libraries 7.2 directory. So I just decided to ignore it for a while. But aside from xorg - everything else is up to date. > (4) If yes, as of "how to check X without KDE", do the following: > > (a) run 'xinit' without ~/.xinitrc file to avoid starting KDE and > or any other window manager; (once you start it, you can go back > by 'exit' or Ctrl+Alt+Backspace; please note that you must put the > mouse over the window in order to move focus on it); > > (b) check if there are warning -- (WW) -- or other suspicious messages > in /var/log/Xorg.0.log; > > (c) while in pure xinit session, run Firefox or other application that > is not KDE/Qt related; > > (d) run Opera, Skype or similar app that is Qt- but not KDE-related; > > (e) run KDE applications (Konqueror, KMail, etc.) > > and report one by one what happened, from (1) to (4e). Maybe it helps > to isolate the problem, besides hardware tests :) Will try the above this arvo when i do the rest. Thanks heaps :) > Nikola Lečić Gemma