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Date:      Tue, 16 May 2000 20:24:05 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Chuck Robey <chuckr@picnic.mat.net>
To:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.ORG>
Cc:        FreeBSD Ports <ports@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: X11 issues (XFree86-libs port uploaded)
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.21.0005162017420.10096-100000@picnic.mat.net>
In-Reply-To: <20000516153314.D79475@dragon.nuxi.com>

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On Tue, 16 May 2000, David O'Brien wrote:

> On Sun, May 14, 2000 at 11:05:29PM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:
> > I've spent some time thinking about it, trying to see why breaking it up
> > into smaller chunks might be a good thing.  About the only arguments I can
> > see are negative ones, reasons why I'd much rather have more confidence
> > that most people were required by the port to install ALL of
> > XFree86.  Could you talk a bit about why you think breaking the port up
> > could be regarded as a good thing?
> 
> 1. 4.0-R shipped with FreeBSD 3.x binaries that require compat3x support
>    to run.  This is because XFree86 Inc. will only provide bits for
>    released products.  This causes us problems in .0 releases.
> 2. It should be pkg_* controlable.  We have this spiffy packaging system,
>    and yet one of the biggest beheemiphs that could really be better
>    controlled with it, isn't.
> 3. XFree86 Inc. will not provide us with FreeBSD/Alpha bits.
> 
> Need I go on?

Oh, I don't say you're wrong, but I don't understand why it's necessary to
break it into smaller packages to get there.  Regarding your wish that we
use packages; I agree; I offered Jordan to build a port that packages it,
so that we could have a package.  He turned me down, saying that what he
wanted was an absolute replica of what the XFree86 organization
produces.  I didn't think it was a good idea, but my way of arguing was
just to not do one like that.  It would have been IMO a lot of effort
producing the wrong thing.

I like the idea of a i386 package and a alpha package, I just don't see
why that mandates the thing has to be in little pieces.

I got XFree86 to build on the alpha myself, back when I suggested it to
Jordan.  Of course, we have a different version now ...

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Chuck Robey            | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD,
chuckr@picnic.mat.net  | electronics, communications, and signal processing.

New Year's Resolution:  I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up
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