From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jul 12 13:06:07 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35AAB92F66 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (c.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9155412EA for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:06:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nwhitehorn@freebsd.org) Received: from zeppelin.tachypleus.net (75-101-50-44.static.sonic.net [75.101.50.44]) (authenticated bits=0) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id u6CD60er032056 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2016 06:06:00 -0700 Subject: Re: FreeBSD-11.0-BETA1-amd64-disc1.iso is too big for my 700MB CD-r To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <5784908E.1090007@ShaneWare.Biz> From: Nathan Whitehorn Message-ID: <6ec8f6e2-a7ef-bc40-497e-b4862abb1ec5@freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 06:05:59 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5784908E.1090007@ShaneWare.Biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sonic-CAuth: UmFuZG9tSVYm1GHow6gGA9kXhl8Ctm4P8tPsCc9E/LXdeTj/ZxrWRQYWCCTVno6PyNmZLzvAeSXid1oEjIAfP6EMXHBcfDoulZF9wR9/WJ4= X-Sonic-ID: C;WCEZYTFI5hG7SJtMTlz00w== M;zipxYTFI5hG7SJtMTlz00w== X-Spam-Flag: No X-Sonic-Spam-Details: 0.0/5.0 by cerberusd X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2016 13:06:07 -0000 On 07/11/16 23:39, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 12/07/2016 06:54, Conrad Meyer wrote: >> DVD-R dates to 1997; cheap USB flash devices are now pervasive. Maybe >> it's time to move on from CD. > > +1 on dropping CD images. I haven't burnt a CD in over 10 years and I > don't believe I have seen a CD only drive in that time. Even with a CD > size image I have burnt them to DVD, I first started this because > transfer speeds of DVD's are faster and nowadays it costs almost the > same to burn a DVD. So I see zero benefit to using CD's and that's > before thinking of reusable USB devices. > > I do think there is a benefit to keeping the small boot only image > available that can be used to start/recover a machine that can then > download any data to be installed. > But some people clearly do want that, and this is trivially fixable by dropping the toolchain from disc1 and leaving it on the DVD image. So let's do that. -Nathan