From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 21 12:13:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7EB1065673 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:13:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bk0-f54.google.com (mail-bk0-f54.google.com [209.85.214.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D678FC1D for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:13:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkvi18 with SMTP id i18so575478bkv.13 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:13:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lKFQum5JAIcOiGAb2RenKPpcEB+wfqSXI07VyjxCaFA=; b=dAO6sVq0TOfvF1lF8i23z86l6s4JFWbG29QPVhjOuujtt+lnfv8I+dyOhElGjJ8D4O JDBATcSI/t4V73BlMRkbDiR8yTLMZvMrOaFu5bhVWo4uxm5doRB8rZUo5Vq563/duVJw j8R8B2LyIXF5/I46aEt4attf1WtTuIlyztb7Kb+TW30m4Ax0zBWqfgVpPNnq8jZWj6nB wv+W173Q4Bjl5ArtdrJcLa1I1sXfbwyXDy5ma6NfM/QtJYMrQIL+lcusCxwQ2HmrZRD0 NrNUSJ/AjfoZdJdJxLnJhP16ft5/rXb18ayqV0zFgUgRVdVB332Tu+9vBs0tNDLvk0pk NfjQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.156.69 with SMTP id v5mr11566026bkw.133.1340280836781; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.171.138 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.171.138 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 05:13:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4FDF6177.5050608@unsane.co.uk> <4FDF6586.9060501@gentoo.org> <4FDFB166.2040709@FreeBSD.org> <4FDFB44D.9090308@gentoo.org> <4FE0ADCD.9010109@FreeBSD.org> <4FE0C123.8030301@gentoo.org> <4FE0F773.1080403@gentoo.org> <4FE100F9.2050009@funtoo.org> <20120620073920.GA5300@lonesome.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 13:13:56 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Wojciech Puchar Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Daniel Robbins , David Brodbeck , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:13:58 -0000 On Jun 20, 2012 11:03 PM, "Wojciech Puchar" wrote: >>> >>> scripts, i deleted most of it and put startup sequence in single file. >>> >>> It was plain horror. >> >> >> You would weep if you saw Solaris's SMF, then. Everything is > > > i don't really know what i've seen. i've installed latest solaris demo downloaded from oracle. After nearly an hour of installation over which i had really no control and no real clue what's going on i finally after over 5 minutes got the system booted, logged as root and tried to understand the /etc tree, boot process and gave up really quickly. > just seeing a files and directories (both numerous) of just a kernel binaries was truly enough. > > Now... lets go back to FreeBSD which is controllable and understandable by a human. Your arrogance is astounding. Did you read man hier? Unfamiliarity does not make it incomprehensible. Chris