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Date:      Sat, 6 Oct 2012 00:36:18 +0200
From:      Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Shaun Amott <shaun@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        ports@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: [CHANGE PROPOSAL] Moving WWW from pkg-descr to Makefile
Message-ID:  <20121005223618.GC316@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net>
In-Reply-To: <20121005220406.GA10831@charon.picobyte.net>
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On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 11:04:07PM +0100, Shaun Amott wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 05:32:21PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 04:15:44PM +0100, Shaun Amott wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 04:05:35PM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote:
> > > > I want to propose and make the actual move of the WWW information f=
rom the
> > > > pkg-descr to the Makefile itself via a WWW variable.
> > > >=20
> > > > doing this will have multiple benefits:
> > > >  * consistency all metadata bug this one are in Makefile
> > > >  * speedup make describe avoiding using grep to get the information=
s (make
> > > >    describe itself does not need speed but make index heavily use i=
t and this
> > > >    will definitly benefit from speed up)
> > > >  * Third party tool will be able to probe the information more easi=
ly.
> > > >=20
> > > > Do anyone have any concern about this?
> > >=20
> > > A good idea in principle, but I think we need to take care to ensure
> > > that the information is easily discoverable by end users. There's a r=
isk
> > > that burying the URLs in Makefiles might make them less accessible.
> > >=20
> > How that would be more complicated than the actual way?
>=20
> I wasn't aware there was an "actual" way; isn't `cat pkg-descr` the
> easiest way of getting a synopsis of the port (including website)?
>=20
> > Given that there are 2 user friendly way to get the information: make s=
earch
> > (which uses INDEX so no change in that area) and freshports and I will =
make sure
> > that we will switch in sync with it.
>=20
> FreshPorts is great, but we shouldn't rely on it for basic information
> and/or functionality.
>=20
> --=20
> Shaun Amott // PGP: 0x6B387A9A
> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin
> of little minds." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

I agree, maybe we can add a 'make www' to be able to output the WWW informa=
tion

regards,
Bapt

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